CB-6000S not preventing masturbation. Alternatives?

[gayinmate]

I've owned a CB-6000S for a little over a year. Prior to this week, I hadn't worn it for over 48 hours. This week, I tried a longer chastity session for the first time. After about 72 hours in the device, I decided to test whether the device prevented me from masturbating. I found that by humping the bed, I was able to come very quickly while still locked in the device.

I understand that a trapped-ball chastity device only works with the cooperation of the chastity device that's between the ears. Psychologically, I can pretend that the device is totally secure and refrain from trying to slip out of it. But it's disappointing that the device didn't stop me from masturbating while my penis was completely inside of it.

I am wondering whether another, better-fitting device (perhaps a metal device?) would be able to keep me from getting off, or whether trapped-ball chastity devices simply won't work for me. I'm interested enough in chastity--and my partner is interested enough in putting me in chastity--that I'm willing to try one of the less-insanely-expensive metal devices (e.g. a Jailbird or a Steelheart) if there's reason to think it may work better than the CB6000S.

Some possibilities:

• Maybe the CB-6000S didn't work for me because there was too much room in the cage. (I am definitely a grower, not a shower. There is a lot of room in the cage when I am flaccid.)
• Maybe the CB-6000S didn't work because it's too smooth, and a chastity cage made with bars would prevent masturbation more effectively.
• Maybe the CB-6000S didn't work because it allows me to apply pressure to the underside of the penis, and a chastity cage that curves down and keeps my penis close to my balls would prevent this.
• Maybe my penis is pressure-sensitive enough that I'm going to be able to get off by humping in any chastity device I wear.

Has anyone here had a similar problem? Were you able to find a device that prevented masturbation more effectively?

[The Grinder]

Any device with a Prince Albert or other similar piercing incorporated into the design has the potential to be a lot more effective. I doubt I have one millimeter of wiggle room around my piercing and really wouldn't want to try that route.

There are a number of devices that enclose your penis rather than cage it. Some fit almost exactly, like a Lori's tube or mousetrap, others aren't quite so exact but offer much more coverage. If you can't move because of the piercing and you can't touch much due to the enclosure, it seems plausible you would get better results out of your device.

I am not as young as I once was though. Maybe I could have gotten off with a qtip and a 1 mm wiggle back in those days - I just can't remember.

The Grinder

[lockedsteve]

I have always wondered why guys want to masturbate when they are the ones who asked for chastity. I really would like to learn why. I find it interesting since my approach is so different. Not better, just different. I look at it as if a cuckold was trying to prevent his wife from having sex with other men. He is defeating the one thing he wants. If you do not mind I am willing to listen and learn.

I can also provide feedback on your question. I can hold a large vibrator to any device and I will cum. As @The Grinder said above, even a Q-Tip or other object that fits into a cage will do it for me too. I am the one who does not want to cum though so even if unlocked I do not mastrubate because I promised my wife that I would not. I would feel as guilty as if I cheated on her with another woman. Yeah, I know but that is the way I am wired.

With chastity devices the expression "where there is a will, there is a way" is very apt. I own clippers that I have used to cut old rusted locks with in the past so I can always cut a lock with that or my Dremel tool with some protection for my penis. I have a security screw in my Jailbird that I can unscrew with a pair of needle nose pliers. I am not willing to get a piercing for a fetish. Already spent 8 days in a hospital for an infection in my urethra so I am a little gun shy.

My Jailbird is small enough that the tip of my Penis touches the end and yet when I start to get hard it simply pushes the whole device forward because my balls are not fixed in one place. They move and so does the device. I do not get a full erection but enough that a Q-tip can make me cum easily. I tried it once and stopped just in time so I know I can do that. It may sound funny but just knowing that I can cum if I really wanted to, makes me feel better because I do not feel trapped. I would imagine that you want to feel trapped. I am guessing that you want to protect yourself against yourself. I can understand that but no one has every come out and said it.

[gayinmate]

Any device with a Prince Albert or other similar piercing incorporated into the design has the potential to be a lot more effective. I doubt I have one millimeter of wiggle room around my piercing and really wouldn't want to try that route.

There are a number of devices that enclose your penis rather than cage it. Some fit almost exactly, like a Lori's tube or mousetrap, others aren't quite so exact but offer much more coverage. If you can't move because of the piercing and you can't touch much due to the enclosure, it seems plausible you would get better results out of your device.

Thanks--these are helpful suggestions. I've actually thought about getting a PA for chastity purposes. The idea of not being able to pull out of a device is really hot--though it would be less hot if the device didn't prevent me from getting off. But I've never had a piercing, and I have to say I'm more than a little nervous about it. It would be very uncharacteristic of me. If I did get a PA, my partner would think first, "This is awesome," and then "Wait, is this really my partner, and not his alien doppleganer?"

I have always wondered why guys want to masturbate when they are the ones who asked for chastity. I really would like to learn why. I find it interesting since my approach is so different. Not better, just different. I look at it as if a cuckold was trying to prevent his wife from having sex with other men. He is defeating the one thing he wants. If you do not mind I am willing to listen and learn.

For me, chastity is like bondage. Different people who are into bondage enjoy it in different ways. For some people, being restrained is a means of experiencing sensations (from sex, from tickling, from SM, or from the bondage itself). For these people it doesn't matter whether they're able to escape the bondage. They're not going to try to escape, because the bondage is a means to sensation play, which they want.

For other people (like me), bondage is only really exciting if it's inescapable. I like being under my partner's physical control, and I enjoy the control for its own sake, not as a means to sensation play. So if he ties me up, I am going to test the knots. You could ask, "Why would you want to get out of the bondage your partner put you in? You wanted to be tied up, after all." The answer is that if I seriously test my bonds and discover that I genuinely can't get out, it is really hot.

Asking me why I want a chastity device that makes it genuinely difficult to get off is like asking me why I want to be tied up in a way that makes it genuinely difficult to escape. The answer is that if I discover that I truly can't get off without my partner's permission, that is hot. The point of chastity for me isn't to avoid cumming; it's to be unable to cum.

A chastity device that prevents me from getting off while I'm in it, but that I can slip out of with soap and time, is sort of like being put in handcuffs when I know I have a spare key on my dresser drawer and could get to it if I really wanted to. It's still hot, though not as hot as being locked up without any access to the key. A chastity device that doesn't prevent me from getting off when I'm in it is sort of like having my hands tied in front of me with the knots in easy reach of my fingers. That might be fun for some people, but for me, there wouldn't be much point.

[The Grinder]

For what it is worth - - -

My Prince Albert piercing was a lot less painful than I had feared. I score it a 1.5 on a 1-10 scale, about the same as stepping on a sticker. Having my balls pop out of a ball trapping device was much worse. There was a nervous wait for my turn in the studio, a two step pinch over a few seconds and then you are done.

It was the best piercing I had done even without the chastity use. I wish I had done it twenty ears ago, but then again there are lots of things I wish I had done twenty years ago.

The Grinder

[peter_rabbit]

Yep. After I got the PA hook installed in my Contender, I no longer move against the inside of the cage. Just sliding against the inner wall can cause a lot of stimulation.

[Look02]

My wife doesn't like the thought of me getting a PA and I have to admit, I don't think I would want it (both may change in future - who knows?). Being locked in a tight Looker 02 with a plug extending 15mm behind the A-ring, the tip of the penis covered by a stainless steel cap there's not much I could possibly do to masturbate. Even if it may be possible if you would try hard, it's much more difficult thatn within the CB. With the CB6000S (had a cheap copy) masturbating was a breeze (pulling the lock back and forth).

[peter_rabbit]

Look02, never say never, but yeah... we all with PA's are big fans and get a bit proselytize-y. Sorry.
I'd experiment with sounding before committing to a urethral plug. I found it very fun. I'd find it a huge head-trip to be filled constantly, and trapped. I'm thinking of getting a PA wand for inside my MouseTrap, actually.

Gayinmate, another "not insanely expensive" alternative is MaleChastityNow. MCN is in the US, and great to work with. You don't need a PA for his Contender, like the Jailbird and Steelheart. However, you can upgrade later if you like.

[Look02]

Puttin a plug inside your uretha doesn't seem to be very smart at first. But though I did not have ANY experience with sounding, it was no problem at all (YMMV though). Just do not rush - really take your time and use enough lube (I use an aseptic lube used for catheters and the first time letting the plug slide in took me half an hour or more).

And yeah - it's a real nice mindfuck to know, that not only your penis is caught inside a cage, but there's also something inside your penis. The shape of the plug steelworxx makes for the looker is just perfect - most of the time I forget about it after just a few minutes.

[locked4her55]

With chastity devices the expression "where there is a will, there is a way" is very apt.

You want to really prevent masturbation? Your best option is to cut the whole thing off.

I get the idea of it being 'hot' that you have absolutely prevented achieving an orgasm. Maybe you will need to settle on something that is more like 'warm'.

About a year ago I thought I had done my best to achieve this. Even put a padlock through both prongs on my wife's Hitachi vibrator since I experienced a rather quick ruined O with that one day. Then about six months ago I'm working in my shop and using my oscillating palm sander. I thought wow, this is pretty powerful and sure enough, just touching the case of the sander to my cage almost created another RO.

"where there is a will, there is a way"

It's like being on a diet. You have a set goal but then you have a weak moment and order that large desert after dinner. It tastes great but shortly after you're done you feel let down. What have I just done, and was it really worth it. My answer is almost always no!

Many have said here and I believe it true that a chastity device is only a deterrent to masturbation.