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Re: new rules for male training

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LockedandLoved wrote:[

Not necessarily however intense T&D sessions have the effect of producing a somewhat orgasmic feeling in me. I get the same effect from satisfying MK on a regular basis.

Orgasms are overrated IMO

Presently 66 days going till Christmas with no full orgasm , like LockedandLoved said orgasms are way over rated and over in a short time. The best part is the tease & denial , being on that edge actually getting your satisfaction from her orgasms. Just knowing she is happy and satisfied keeps me in a happy state of horniness and desire to please her even more.

To each his own but not knowing when I will cum again being teased denied and horny is what some of us desire from this lifestyle. Having a KH who understands and enjoys this also is what we wish for. My wife / KH started slow , but that seems to be changing fast.

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Exactly how i feel LOCKED HUSBAND, well put.
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Re: new rules for male training

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As someone already said, most of these contracts and rules revolve around the one writing it. It is pretty much an owner's manual that lists all the things that turn you on and how they are to treat you and act. Of course, it is all for their benefit, not yours. :) The biggest mistake we make is assuming that our wives share our fantasy. Often they do not. The best way for long term success is to let your wife dominate you the way she wants to. My wife is mostly submissive to me but dominant in certain areas that she is comfortable being dominant in. I know it sounds crazy but it works for the both of us. We drift in and out of our D/s roles as the mood strikes us. After 4 decades, I think that we found what works for us.
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Re: new rules for male training

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maxANDsue wrote:As someone already said, most of these contracts and rules revolve around the one writing it. It is pretty much an owner's manual that lists all the things that turn you on and how they are to treat you and act. Of course, it is all for their benefit, not yours. :) The biggest mistake we make is assuming that our wives share our fantasy. Often they do not. The best way for long term success is to let your wife dominate you the way she wants to. My wife is mostly submissive to me but dominant in certain areas that she is comfortable being dominant in. I know it sounds crazy but it works for the both of us. We drift in and out of our D/s roles as the mood strikes us. After 4 decades, I think that we found what works for us.
Well said

The rule follower cannot be the rule maker. It's like letting the inmates run the asylum.
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LockedandLoved wrote: The rule follower cannot be the rule maker. It's like letting the inmates run the asylum.
Unless the keyholder has no idea on how to set rules... which is my case!
Listen, one day when I was supposed not to cum, after a long PIV session I asked my wife: if we had not set rules, tonight would you allow me to cum? She said: yes, because you are very horny. She admits that without rules she would have no idea on how to decide when I can cum. Maybe after some months with the rules she will have a clue...
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Re: new rules for male training

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kunst wrote:
LockedandLoved wrote: The rule follower cannot be the rule maker. It's like letting the inmates run the asylum.
Unless the keyholder has no idea on how to set rules... which is my case!
Listen, one day when I was supposed not to cum, after a long PIV session I asked my wife: if we had not set rules, tonight would you allow me to cum? She said: yes, because you are very horny. She admits that without rules she would have no idea on how to decide when I can cum. Maybe after some months with the rules she will have a clue...
I agree, in situations where the male introduces the concept to a female who has no previous experience or knowledge of it, it can be necessary to 'prime the pump'. I had to do the same, in the beginning. However, I took care to write most of them as *suggestions*, both because Mrs. Twisted was not real keen on the idea of 'rules' that *she* had to follow, AND because *I* am not keen on the idea of *me* trying to tell *her* what to do- that would be 'topping from the bottom' and does not fit the scenarios of my fantasies. It doesn't turn me on to be in a situation where she is simply doing what I tell her to do, so most of my 'rule writing' was in the format of "The Mistress has the RIGHT to..." or "The Mistress is ENTITLED to..."

In my opinion, this format is a good method of providing some education and knowledge without taking the form of a set of instructions that she must follow. It provides her with the freedom to choose what it is that *she* wants to do, and leaves some element of surprise for the male. Of course, when I wrote such 'rules' they naturally pandered to my fantasy ideas of what the experience should be like and the sort of things that turned me on, but there was no requirement that she *had* to do what was written so I would have no idea of what she might actually do. I felt that this was the most ideal method of providing her with some idea of what she *could* do if she wished to but still giving her the freedom to pick and choose, to be free to expand the scope in the future, and to make up new rules of her own as she became more experienced and comfortable and came to understand what it was that *she* enjoyed.

And, it provided *me* with the opportunity to be surprised and to *not* be 'in control'. To truly not be in control is the root of the eroticism of my fantasies, not simply having a woman do x, y, or z to me. The only form of 'control' that I want to retain is in the relatively short list of 'Hard Limits'- those things that I absolutely do not want to occur (and, actually, several of these become available as 'penalty options' in the event of certain forms of 'disobedience', and since I absolutely don't want them to happen they can be very effective in her implementation of control and power).

Do I think it would be exciting if she were to do everything that I wrote down? Of course. But do I want her to do it just because I wrote it? Nope, absolutely not. I want her to do what she wants, because *she* wants to do it, not because *I* might 'want' her to do it (is that clear as mud, or what?).

The exception to this is that at certain times she might give me a 'gift' of following the guidelines of a fantasy scenario I have written. This has actually provided her, on at least on occasion, with the ability to discover something that has turned *her* on, that she would not previously have thought was something she might want to do.
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Re: new rules for male training

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Very well put TwistedMister , we have no rules I have only confessed to my kinks and things I would like. She has been reading and moving at her own pace , I'm a very patient person and from our talks I believe she is very happy with the results she receiving from me being locked and denied. We both found our communication has helped our journey.

All of this would be in vain if she didn't get as much or more enjoyment and emotion than we had before. There definitely has to be something for both of you or it's not worth it.
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Meh I don't know

I find the more I lay off MK for my "demands" the more she surprises me and takes more control.

My point was that if She is in charge then how can I be the one deciding what's what. Conversation about it? Sure. Me making the decisons and Her acquiescing ? No
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Re: new rules for male training

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TwistedMister wrote: It doesn't turn me on to be in a situation where she is simply doing what I tell her to do

I'm with you on this one. Not wanting to top from the bottom I have at times suggested some things when asked but it's just not the same as being surprised.
TwistedMister wrote:To truly not be in control is the root of the eroticism of my fantasies
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Re: new rules for male training

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Mrs. Lion is not a "rules" person. However, one of my kinks is to have rules and receive discipline. We tried using my suggestions and that failed miserably. Mrs. Lion needs to figure out how she wants to run my sex life. So far I have a very short list of rules which I obey. When it comes to orgasms, she knows how I feel, but if she wants me to come, then I do. We haven't including "holding off" as part of my routine. She owns edging and other activities. If she goes too far I get a ruined or full orgasm.

This is her preference. I've asked her if she wants me to try and hold back. So far, this doesn't interest her. Let's face it, this is a two way street. All I can do is let her know what I would like to try/do. She has to make the decision as to whether she wants to impose a rule.

I'm more than a little surprised at some of the very elaborate "games" that some have said that their keyholders play. The OP's first post outlined one that I find difficult to believe. I guess that complex rules are reasonable in a short term chastity play. But, based on my experience I doubt any couple can do this on a continuous basis for long term chastity.

For those who have been caged for more than 6 months, what rules do you have? What penalties does your keyholder impose? We would like to explore possibilities.
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