Ordering a steelworxx Chastity Belt

[Whynot]

I think exactly the same with the CB.. sometimes I fill it completely, but sometimes not and my penis slip to the top!

Just let me add to your confusion ...

I use the CB 6000 with the smallest spacer, that's about 105mm long the way Dietmar measures the Steelheart. I also usually fill it completely, but sometimes the penis slides back a bit. When I ordered my Steelheart I went for a total length of 90mm. That turned out a bit on the short side. I fill that short tube virtually all the time, and when I need to pee sometimes some urine remains in the tube. I should have got a slightly longer tube, probably 95mm. So your 105mm really does seem a bit long to me. I would also make for a pretty large tube, easily visible under tight pants.

On the size of the A-ring: I use the medium ring on the CB 6000, that's 45mm. With the Steelheart I went a bit smaller, based on Thumper's advice in his excellent blog, and got a 42mm A-ring. That's just about perfect, got that right the first time.

Another measurement not many people mention is the distance between the tube and the A-ring. Dietmar usually uses a 15mm gap, at least that's what he says on his website. 15mm is too large for me. In the CB 6000 the distance (with the medium ring and the shortest spacer) is something like 11mm, so I asked him to make my Steelheart with a 11mm gap. That turned out well.

[bitsy0]

Awww these measurements are a lot harder than I thought!
Look, in his website, in the FAQ guide for the measurments, the drawing shows that the total lenght should be measured with a curve.. not straight from base to end (not with a straight line). Or at least, this is what the faq shows. Using a curved measure, it's 110 m for me, but of course if I use a straight line to measure, it's much less!
You say that the CB is about 110m: well, using a straight line, yes! You understand what I mean? (don't know If i can explain very well in english...)

And, thank you for the infinite patience you're having in helping me

[chaste]

Where did you get the 130-140mm for the length of the cb6k? When I measure mine, I know the cage size is 82.55mm, and with the smallest spacer it adds about an inch (25.4mm), so it works out to be about 108mm total length.

What about the distance from the base to where the ring usually sits? With every device I've ever had (a lot), I've never seen the ring sit exactly where the base is, with my cb6k it sits about .5-1 inch down from where the base starts - even with the smallest ring I can possibly get on, which is far too right. Does that not factor in to the overall length of the device you are ordering? For instance, I measure about 100-105mm, but take that gap into account and the length of my device should be about 85-90mm, shouldn't it?

[bitsy0]

Where did you get the 130-140mm for the length of the cb6k? When I measure mine, I know the cage size is 82.55mm, and with the smallest spacer it adds about an inch (25.4mm), so it works out to be about 108mm total length.

What about the distance from the base to where the ring usually sits? With every device I've ever had (a lot), I've never seen the ring sit exactly where the base is, with my cb6k it sits about .5-1 inch down from where the base starts - even with the smallest ring I can possibly get on, which is far too right. Does that not factor in to the overall length of the device you are ordering? For instance, I measure about 100-105mm, but take that gap into account and the length of my device should be about 85-90mm, shouldn't it?

Oh yes! Exactly! That is exactly the point: you're right. Does Dietmar want the measure from the base of the skin? or from the base of the device? (ring)

Anyway...
I think I'm gonna buy a Crossfire, which is a little different from the Steelheart because it has some openings at the end of the tube which allows to pee by simply curving the penis head with a finger (or a q-tip). This way, there's less need to clean the device because no pee remains inside. That's my point of view, but let's go further to another (i think and hope the LAST ONE ) question:

After many many measurments, I stated that my penis is between 70mm and 80mm (just the penis). It becomes 100-110mm counting the scrotum too (from base of the skin to head of penis). I wrote these numbers to Dietmar and he suggested me to make a total-lenght of 110m. But a steel device is much heavier than a plastic one (CB-6000), and (in my case) if I put a steel ring on, it doesn't perfectly stay at the base of the scrotum, but goes a little down.. and hold still at a certain position.. (like "chaste" say in the previous post). So I think that the total length of the device (to give to Dietmar) should be shorter than 110! (Except if Dietmar's rings perfectly fit at the base of the scrotum, but I don't think they're different from other steel rings..)
I was also thinking that I could use an elastic to support the tube in a more orizzontal position (rather than vertical): this way, the ring should stop going down after a while, due to the device weight.
In addition, I also have a 30$ chastity belt bought from ebay (it's a CB-Zero fake copy) which has a tube of 70mm and a total lenght of 83mm, and i fill it very well; however, the poor construction and design of the cage cause me some pain in the skin (at the connection between cage and ring, for example). But the penis fill it very well, so I think that approximately these are my right measures for a steel device. 80mm of total length, with 70 of tube. Should I specify to Dietmar the tube-length or I just have to say: "80 total"? He seems to prefer working on the total directly.
What do you think? Am I wrong thinking that Dietmar starting advice (110m total) is really too long for me? That would works only if the ring would stay at the top base of the scrotum...

For what concern the diameter.. my CB-6000 diameter is 30mm (160$ original, what a pity.. they said it was 35mm but it's 35 just in the end.. for the penis head... the entrance (for half the size) is 30mm.. which is really little for me (i am 34-35mm in 90% of the penis, plus a little point where I am 38mm.. but it's a very small part of my penis. The ebay-cbzero instead, (30$) is 35 mm, which looks very well for me. The penis enter with ease.
Lastly, for the top-gap between ring and tube, you think it's ok Dietmar's standard of 5mm?

After many and many thoughts and ideas, I would go for the following measures:

Diameter of tube: 35 mm (my penis is 34.5, I ignore the little part where is 38)
Diameter of A-Ring: 47 mm (On the plastic CB6000 i feel confortable with 50mm but can stay with 47 too; with the steel instead, 45mm cause me stomach ache)
Total Length: 80mm (my total length is 105-110mm but the ring go down for about 35 mm)

After many many researches and measurments (and your helping posts), If you (experts) say that these should be ok, I e-mail Dietmar and order the device

[Locked4Xtine]

dietmar advised me completely wrong for diameter...if I had followed the dimensions of what i was already wearing then maybe the device would have fit better.

if you fill your 83mm total length cheap CB nicely, then order an 80-90mm total length Steelworxx


Your CB6000 should be more than 30mm diameter...its an oval with around a 35mm diameter. But if your cheap CB is 35mm and it fits well then get that...don't worry about the little bit of your cock that is 38mm, it'll squeeze into 35mm. You don't want the tube too loose if you ask me.

Stick to what you know works would be my advice


However, i would add, that on my device, it tends to hang about 1-2cm from my pelvis...if yours is hanging by 3.5 your ring may be too big, but then you have tried the smaller ones already, so i dunno what would be best for you in that respect

[chaste]

Does Dietmar want the measure from the base of the skin? or from the base of the device? (ring)

I am pretty sure the measurement should be taken from the place where your stomach ends and your penis begins, and should extend out to the tip of your penis.

I was just doing some experimenting with my cb6000 and I think the 85mm I ordered my cage is overkill.

I did two things:

1) I put only the cage portion of the cb6k on, all the way up so the back of the tube was flush with my stomach. This didn't feel uncomfortable but I could definitely tell something wasn't quite right. It seemed too cramped, and I don't even think all my penis was inside the tube. It seemed like some of it went "inside" of me instead. I got semi-hard in it and, again, though it wasn't extremely uncomfortable I would hate to think what would happen with a raging nocturnal erection like this.

2) I then put the device on with the ring but no spacers. This adds 13mm for a total length of 95mm. This was more comfortable and felt more natural, yet it didn't feel like there was "too much" room. I think with just a bit of slippage down the shaft, this would be a good size. Sort of an "in between" the 85mm and my actual length for my size.

So, in conclusion, for me I think that going way smaller than my size is overkill. Since you're thinking of going with 80mm, try this out yourself and see what you think.

[bitsy0]

Does Dietmar want the measure from the base of the skin? or from the base of the device? (ring)

I did two things: [...]

So, in conclusion, for me I think that going way smaller than my size is overkill. Since you're thinking of going with 80mm, try this out yourself and see what you think.

Thank you! 'll try it! All of your suggests and thoughts are helpful for me.

By the way, how large are Dietmar's A-Rings? I mean, not the diameter (44,47,50...) but their thickness (3mm? 5mm? 7mm?) In the description of his website he doesn't speaks about it.
And, does the Integrated Lock (92€) help the belt be more fixed and motionless? Or is it just esthetic?
Same question about the Stainless Ring (http://steelworxx.de/Stainless-steel-ri ... -43p.html), is it useful?

[Atone]

I think the rings are 8mm, pretty sure it is listed on his site somewhere. When I get a minute I will measure one of mine.

The Stainless steel ring you linked to is a useful option, I would get it. Not very expensive either.

I have only had the integrated lock so I cannot compare but it does keep everything pretty tight. It is also very streamlined so it conceals well. It might possibly weigh less than the locking post + a separate lock but I cannot verify that.

[danj]

Lastly, for the top-gap between ring and tube, you think it's ok Dietmar's standard of 5mm?

After many and many thoughts and ideas, I would go for the following measures:

Diameter of tube: 35 mm (my penis is 34.5, I ignore the little part where is 38)
Diameter of A-Ring: 47 mm (On the plastic CB6000 i feel confortable with 50mm but can stay with 47 too; with the steel instead, 45mm cause me stomach ache)
Total Length: 80mm (my total length is 105-110mm but the ring go down for about 35 mm)

After many many researches and measurments (and your helping posts), If you (experts) say that these should be ok, I e-mail Dietmar and order the device

After reviewing your thread, my comments on your measurements:

Diameter: I have a bit of room in my Steelheart and like it. It seems to allow urine to drain pretty easily and I feel like I can clean and rinse better in the shower. Depending how much of your penis is 38mm wide, if it is much, I'd lean towards the 38mm tube width.

A Ring: I wore the 45mm cb-6000 ring, and now like my 42mm ring with the SH, so going 3mm less for the Steelworxx ring makes sense to me.

Overall length: I measured the overall length from the base of my penis along the TOP. I went with my average flaccid length from many measurements over the course of a week or so. I then added maybe 1-2mm . That worked out almost perfectly for me. If I were to do it over again I would either stay the same length or maybe add another 1mm. So I would say order by measuring along the TOP, base to tip. And take several measurements so you really know the average.

Gap: I went with Dietmar's standard gap of 15mm. I've had no issues. I used both the smallest and second smallest spacers on the cb. I liked the second smallest best.

[bitsy0]

Thank you for all of your answers! A-Ring 47mm for sure, all of you agree with the fact that Plastic A-Ring - (minus) 3mm = perfect Steel A-Ring. The total lenght of 80mm is good. All of you say that 90-95+ looks too long, and I like a gap of 15-20mm (because my penis starts larger than goes smaller).
Only doubt is for the tube diameter: some of you say that perfect fit is good, others that a few extra 2-3 mm is better; i think I'll go with a balanced choice between 35 and 38 and make 36.5.

ps: for your experience, is it dangerous to have showers with water that directly goes into the lock? (rust?)
I think that tomorrow I will order:
Crossfire tube 159€
Integrated Lock 92€
Stainless Ring 19€
Total (incl.shipping) 281€

ps: by the way.. this is absolutely OUT of my budget.. but it looks incredibly nice:
http://www.thechastitycage.com/021_the_ ... _cage.html