Most humiliating thing your Mistress has made you do?

[locked4her55]

ChrissysProperty, you are the peacekeeper.

Maybe the moderators can make you the site arbitrator.

[sub2olive]

Relax people! Is seems to me that Tom just did not choose the right words to express himself. As if somebody else wrote these lines. But let's hear what he says about this.

[Tom Allen]

Hmm, obviously what I wrote came across in a way I hadn't intended. I apologize for the tone (again, not intended that way), and allow me try this again.

I was really responding to what I read into this sentence:

I am not really into this either but I am very interested as to why it (i.e., humiliation) seems to be a part of the life style.

What I took from that was hiskh thinking that there is a natural or automatic incorporation of humiliation that came along with the chastity kink. And in my own defense, I think that most of us have run across this attitude in many other places around the internet.

My contention is that there is no "lifestyle" in the sense (or meaning) that we all approach this differently; and with so many different approaches to chastity/OD, you can't call it a lifestyle, certainly not one in the sense that there are certain parameters which are necessarily entailed.

Mrs. Edge and I do not incorporate any humiliation - it's a turn-off for both of us. I happen to know that there are other people who are fairly similar in practice, because I hear from them often. The only thing differentiating what they do from plain vanilla life is that they are locked up at their wife's discretion. There's no doing humiliating tasks, no dressing in humiliating clothing, no being forced to go to the doctor's or the gym, or wherever, with the risk or probability of discovery.

Some people do have a lifestyle approach, but to my way of thinking, the lifestyle is the other practice (cross-dressing, cuckolding, whatever) which incorporates the chastity kink. I interpret it this way because (as lockedforher55 points out):

Definition of Lifestyle: a set of attitudes, habits, or possessions associated with a particular person or group

To my way of thinking, the habits of people who dabble with chastity are too varied to be a coherent set.

Again, apologies for my initial response coming across as harsh. I have a perfectly good idea in my head, that for some reason just can't make it across the keyboard.

[Tom Allen]

As if somebody else wrote these lines. But let's hear what he says about this.

Umm... Transporter accident?



Yeah, let's go with that.

[ChrissysProperty]

Hooray! Total misunderstanding of words! Nice one Tom! Cool down now folks! Big laughs at "Transporter accident!". Life is very short! Come on now, respect each other because we have a HUGE amount in common!

Love you ALL!

Oh! and by the way! Change the subject now! How about telling my Princess to allow me to cum tonight! Please! Pretty PLEASE! Fat Chance!

[Tame Lion]

Hmm, obviously what I wrote came across in a way I hadn't intended. I apologize for the tone (again, not intended that way), and allow me try this again.

I was really responding to what I read into this sentence:

I am not really into this either but I am very interested as to why it (i.e., humiliation) seems to be a part of the life style.

What I took from that was hiskh thinking that there is a natural or automatic incorporation of humiliation that came along with the chastity kink. And in my own defense, I think that most of us have run across this attitude in many other places around the internet.

My contention is that there is no "lifestyle" in the sense (or meaning) that we all approach this differently; and with so many different approaches to chastity/OD, you can't call it a lifestyle, certainly not one in the sense that there are certain parameters which are necessarily entailed.

Mrs. Edge and I do not incorporate any humiliation - it's a turn-off for both of us. I happen to know that there are other people who are fairly similar in practice, because I hear from them often. The only thing differentiating what they do from plain vanilla life is that they are locked up at their wife's discretion. There's no doing humiliating tasks, no dressing in humiliating clothing, no being forced to go to the doctor's or the gym, or wherever, with the risk or probability of discovery.

Some people do have a lifestyle approach, but to my way of thinking, the lifestyle is the other practice (cross-dressing, cuckolding, whatever) which incorporates the chastity kink. I interpret it this way because (as lockedforher55 points out):

Definition of Lifestyle: a set of attitudes, habits, or possessions associated with a particular person or group

To my way of thinking, the habits of people who dabble with chastity are too varied to be a coherent set.

Again, apologies for my initial response coming across as harsh. I have a perfectly good idea in my head, that for some reason just can't make it across the keyboard.

I can understand that you may not have communicated what you intended. However, you just reiterated what I take exception to: that chastity isn't a lifestyle. Just because fantasy-dominated forums refer to this as a lifestyle the same way the internet doms and subs call their stuff a lifestyle, doesn't change the fact that for some of us it really is. Similarly the leather community has a lot of real life people who live a d/s lifestyle that doesn't conform to the Internet definitions.

You and your wife may not extend chastity as deeply into your relationship as I do. That doesn't invalidate that my 24/7 chastity deeply affects my relationship with Mrs. Lion. My point is that you can't declare there is no such thing as a chastity lifestyle. You may not believe in it, but some of us live it.

Humiliation has nothing to do with that. In a way this thread has been hijacked by this more basic issue. But it is absolutely wrong to negate what some of us believe and live because you have seen too much garbage elsewhere. In the past I was a very active member of the leather community in NY. I actually did live the lifestyle (as a top/master, ironically) for decades. Just because some leather wannabe's corrupt the idea of a community or a lifestyle doesn't change my life or community.

So, Tom, you are free to believe what you wish and pursue chastity in a way that works for you, but you don't have the right to continue to deny mine. There really are people who live a chastity lifestyle. You are reading one now. I am very real. My wife has me in a cage full time. We have changed many of our behaviors due to this cage I am wearing.

I will agree that when you start discussing humiliation and feminization, you begin to get into topics that the fantasy chastityboys have annoyed us with for years. I can understand the temptation to generalize based on all that crap. However, you really need to realize that some substantial, adults actually practice this stuff (not necessarily me) and deserve the respect we all want. Nuff said.

[hiskh]

Hooray! Total misunderstanding of words! Nice one Tom!

Believe me when I say there was no misunderstanding what his words said. If he didn't mean them the way they sounded, then he should have proofed his post before submitting.
I had a valid question and STILL feel humiliated myself for how it was addressed.

I can almost guarantee this key holder won't be back here nor will I refer others.

It is sad that a moderator is so judgmental.

[hiskh]

I was really responding to what I read into this sentence:

I am not really into this either but I am very interested as to why it (i.e., humiliation) seems to be a part of the life style.

What I took from that was hiskh thinking that there is a natural or automatic incorporation of humiliation that came along with the chastity kink. And in my own defense, I think that most of us have run across this attitude in many other places around the internet.

I don't think I indicated that I thought it was natural OR automatic. I merely asked for input

Mrs. Edge and I do not incorporate any humiliation - it's a turn-off for both of us. I happen to know that there are other people who are fairly similar in practice, because I hear from them often. The only thing differentiating what they do from plain vanilla life is that they are locked up at their wife's discretion. There's no doing humiliating tasks, no dressing in humiliating clothing, no being forced to go to the doctor's or the gym, or wherever, with the risk or probability of discovery.

Why didn't you just say this to begin with? That was all I was asking.

[Tom Allen]

Mrs. Edge and I do not incorporate any humiliation - it's a turn-off for both of us. I happen to know that there are other people who are fairly similar in practice, because I hear from them often. The only thing differentiating what they do from plain vanilla life is that they are locked up at their wife's discretion. There's no doing humiliating tasks, no dressing in humiliating clothing, no being forced to go to the doctor's or the gym, or wherever, with the risk or probability of discovery.

Why didn't you just say this to begin with? That was all I was asking.

Once again, I apologize for the way it came out. I don't have any other explanation.

You know how you take some friends to your favorite restaurant, and that happens to be the worst meal in memory, and your friends think that you're crazy for going there, and won't ever go back? Well, apparently my head chef called in sick today.

I'm still going with "Transporter accident."

[Cagedrosie]

I am not really into this either but I am very interested as to why it seems to be a part of the life style.

First, repeat this mantra:
It's not a flipping lifestyle.

The range of what people enjoying this kink are into varies widely. I suspect that the overwhelming majority of users are just regular, vanilla-ish folks who are just using the devices on a semi-regular basis to have some harmless fun. Humiliation, cuckolding, cross-dressing, sissification, BDSM, etc., are not necessarily regular adjuncts to the kink; rather, people who are already kinky have stumbled across chastity devices and have incorporated them. So, you have 2 classes of users, but probably the kinkier ones are already more open about discussing the side kinks. My estimation is that we don't often hear from the mainly vanilla folks on the boards, at least, not with the frequency that the other groups tend to express themselves.

Nothing wrong with it if that's what you like, but dont' get the idea that there is some kind of "chastity lifestyle" that automatically incorporates various other interests.

woahhhh thought this was directed towards me as well.... my input to the shitstorm is simply

different strokes for different folks... i don't think tom was out of line in the sense that he is not into the humiliation aspect of it but think he may have come off the wrong was towards some.. just my take