What do you consider a “ruined” orgasm?

[cagedbasilisk]

I guess the question would also be what is considered an orgasm?

Obviously an uncaged, full on erect, emission is an orgasm.
PIV, BJ, KH’s hand, your hand watched by your KH, etc… = orgasm.
Correct? No arguments there, right?

But what about an emission when caged? Would that be considered an orgasm? Or do you consider that a maintenance draining because it lacks the “HOLY CRAP” feeling of a true orgasm?
I’ve recently had a couple of caged orgasms whilst in what I consider the smaller of her cages. A 32mm and a 23mm. Now when in these there’s quite a bit of cock head that protrudes through the bars when “erect” (at least as much as the cage allows).
This allows K enough to be able to stimulate/suck that I’m able to achieve a… “what”?
Neither of these had the eye rolling WOW of a true orgasm.
They were very nice and amazing nonetheless.
Would these be considered a ruined?
I’ve also had an uncaged “don’t you cum” handjob where I’m stimulated then released many times before an emission with no feeling at all, just a pouring out of fluid.
I’d say that was definitely a “ruined”.

What are your opinions?

Sincerely, D.

[Chosen_Jackal]

For me it’s a release that may be mentally stimulating, but it lacks the physical pleasure of a true orgasm.
I further divide them into two types of ruined orgasms in my experience.

The true ruined orgasm is also the one I really enjoy the most.
It usually happens when I’m edged for a prolonged period of time and physical stimulation is stopped well befefore the point of no return. Often 15-30 seconds before, but the process has started and after a while cum sort of oozes out. There’s absolutely no physical pleasure and there’s no hormone drop after.
I can have several of these in a row of my KH decide.

The other type is even more ruined in a way, and I don’t really lie them.
They’re the one that happens when stimulation is continued a little further and closer to the point of no return.
This often results in cum shooting out instead of oozing. There still no pleasure involved, but there’s an obvious drop immediately after.
These have none of the positives and all of the negatives of a proper orgasm.

[Tongue+groove]

I think it depends a lot on the individual. For me what she calls a dribble cum is a ruined. Also when I have non ejaculatory orgasms, we’ll it’s an orgasm with no fluid released. They can come in waves and be exhausting. Yes it’s an orgasm but no drop.

As I dwell on it some more it may be the difference between the drop or no drop. It’s possibly really about the after effect.

Afterwards did you want to celebrate in the endzone and strut around before settling in for a good sleep or do you feel like you missed out on something.

Just my thoughts.