CB6KS sleep deprived. HT2 miserable failure. Help!

[Thatguy]

We're relatively new to this. I have and am relatively happy with the CB6KS. But I can't, for the life of me, sleep in it. It's been almost a month. Larger ring made it worse, more lube just made a mess - so far tight underwear has shown promise, but not much. My KH being less patient than I am just wants to rip it off every night as soon as my stirrings wake her up.

In comes the HTv2. We were very excited about it, and waited eagerly for the Swedish answer to our problems. And boy were we ever disappointed. The 40mm ring (same as I use on the CB6KS) we ordered it with allowed me to literally slip mysel out with about as much effort as a discreet ball scratch in a public place. Something isn't right, we thought. EVERYONE around the forums sings the HTv2's praises. So we looked around. A smaller ring was to be the answer. So we ordered the 35mm (and an anti pullout add-on, because for me at least some psychological element of security is required for this all to be any fun). That was a failure too. No matter now it's configured, how small, tight, loose, or how well "in place" I get myself in it, pullout is SO ease as to make the wearing of it pointless. I guess some men are just built differently. So now I have a literally brand new HTv2, 40&35mm rings, and an anti-pullout device just sitting in its little pouch. Such a waste for young penny-punchers like us!

That all said, the CB6Ks fits great and I can wear it all day, be active, and have no problems. She even much prefers the way it looks on me. But after a few weeks now I'm still not getting though the night. And worse, once the first nighttime erection wakes me up, they seem to return every hour or so.

Is there any advice out there beyond "use a lot of lube" "sleep on your side" or "use a bigger ring"? The loss of sleep for both of us is having a chilling effect on the fun that chastity had created. I thought about shortening the cage so there's less pulling going on but A) I fill it 80-90% of the time so idk if that's really the issue, and B) I wouldn't know how anyway.

Any words of wisdom are welcome.

[Veganpunk]

Hmm, not sure I can help you. You've already tried what helped me, tighter underwear. For me it got better with time, as your body gets used to the device. Not very helpful I know, but I wish you good luck.

[beheld]

Don't stir. Get up. Go pee. Get back in bed and go back to sleep. At least thats what works for me. If you are anything like me, you will eventually get up less and less. I'm at the point where sometimes I sleep through the night.

Another thing I do when I'm up peeing is pull my scrotum tight at the bottom. Basically I place the palm of my hand on the end of of the cage then reach under my testicles with my fingers and pull them forward. This slides the base ring closer to the body and the burning feeling is gone almost immediately for me.

You might also consider a metal cage. I am much more comfortable in metal. The edge of the ring has less "bite" so it's much easier to sleep through. If you don't want to go custom, I really like my Captus. You can pick it up on amazon for about $50. You can order it from china for even less, but you have to wait on the shipping. If you order from china, you can pick different size base rings. The amazon one comes with a 1 3/4" base ring.

[slave-jack]

As far as i had read, any actual system is succeptible of escape unless you use a prince albert piercing system or a full metal belt. I think that it is more in the wearers will to not scape. Other than that, you can try the birdlocked, wich i think it has been with the design the one that made more complicated to "escape", but you can get out anyways. Also it is made of silicone instead of a hard material, wich can be good or bad for you, depending if you like the feeling of it.
Hope it helps

[Jasmic68]

I have no idea how you are able to pull your balls out of a holy trainer, I would have to iron my balls flat to be able to do that! As for being able to pull my oenis out of the tube I probably could, but why would I want to?

I do the same thing with my balls as woodenturner and pull my balls through the ring and the burning stops.

[Thatguy]

I have no idea how you are able to pull your balls out of a holy trainer, I would have to iron my balls flat to be able to do that! As for being able to pull my oenis out of the tube I probably could, but why would I want to?

I do the same thing with my balls as woodenturner and pull my balls through the ring and the burning stops.

I certainly can't get my balls out. But the ease with which I can remove my penis (and reinsert it) sort of kills the control aspect that we like. I can indeed also get my shaft out of the CB6Ks, but it's quite an ordeal, requiring time, focus, and lube. And getting it back in? no chance. I read a review - well a comment on a revie - in which the commenter likened the ease with which he could pull out of the HT2 to being in a tube sock, or something like that. I think it was a comment on Tom's review. I read that before buying it but assumed he was a fluke due to the overwhelming love the HT2 gets. But, alas, my experience was similar. I understand that in lieu of a piercing nothing is truly secure. But trust when I say that if you saw how crazy fast and easy I came out of it you'd have to agree that there wasn't much sense walking around with it on.

Regardless, I don't have any of those issues with the CB6Ks. Just that erections, both during play time and nocturnal lead to a very harsh "kicked in the crotch" stomach ache for me. Goes right away when I calm down, and when mixed with true arousal I can handle it. But I'm not sure how I could get used to waking up to that sort of discomfort with no warning.

[Jasmic68]

That makes more sense.

Since wearing the HTv2 I have had absolutely no desire to try and beat it, to get my penis out. I have no doubt I could if I wanted to, I just don't want to. I think that for me the HT is more of a symbol and an assistant towards the chastity that is more in my brain than in my hands. My Wife trusts me, if I was to break that trust she would just hand me the key back and not do this any more.

I don't know why it is easier for me wearing such an easy to escape chastity device, it just is.

I hope you find the solution to your issue of security. I am moving towards this goal myself (despite what I just wrote) as it is more to do with the level of control than the need for control, if that makes sense. I am going to see how the Looker 2 fits with the urethral insert as the idea of even trying to escape from that makes me scared!

[Thatguy]

I can understand that. But for us at least having the device provide more of a a deterrent than a tight pair a of boxers is part of the fun. I should say, we didn't start this because of excessive masturbation, or moodiness after orgasm on my part, or particularly bad behavior in relation to any of that in our relationship. We just thought it would be fun. But since putting it on she's admitted that she really likes knowing that my penis only comes out to play with her say so, and she likes knowing that when I'm out and about I have w constant reminder of her. And I do to, to be honest. The though of going for longer term wear is a an unexpected development. But she liked the way I am with it, and I like the sort of play it encourages between us. So for whatever reason we both frowned when she said "see if you you can wiggle out of that one" and all it took was a flick of my pinkie finger to do it. Beyond that she much prefers the aesthetic of the CB. So I can understand that just having it as a reminder suits your needs. Just not ours. I'll probably sell it soon - it's got about 4 hours wear on it so why not?

As far as the kicked-in-the-crotch stomach pain on arrousal, is that normal, or something that I should be trying to remedy with different sizing options? Because as far as fit goes for all other times how I have it now is good.

[peter_rabbit]

I could never sleep in either device. It was unbearable. I'd get ball burn in smaller rings, and larger rings would allow me to slide it off.

After much experimentation, I ended up in fully custom steel chastity by MaleChastityNow. Mine's the Contender, which goes for a very reasonable $275. He has a new cheaper offering, the Adaptus, for $135 - just base ring is custom.

After experimenting with smaller and smaller base rings, I found I like a wider base-ring with a narrow ball gap (1/4"). I have plenty of blood flow to my testicles, and yet they are nicely trapped. I also like the top-mounted base-ring that Mark from MCN will do. It the inside of the cage and base-ring are aligned inside and keeps me straight, and not kinked up.

[Thatguy]

I could never sleep in either device. It was unbearable. I'd get ball burn in smaller rings, and larger rings would allow me to slide it off.

After much experimentation, I ended up in fully custom steel chastity by MaleChastityNow. Mine's the Contender, which goes for a very reasonable $275. He has a new cheaper offering, the Adaptus, for $135 - just base ring is custom.

After experimenting with smaller and smaller base rings, I found I like a wider base-ring with a narrow ball gap (1/4"). I have plenty of blood flow to my testicles, and yet they are nicely trapped. I also like the top-mounted base-ring that Mark from MCN will do. It the inside of the cage and base-ring are aligned inside and keeps me straight, and not kinked up.

I have a feeling custom steel is ultimately what we'll end up doing. We've held off thus far for a few reasons. Chief among them is that my KH ("Thatgirl") prefers the look of the polycarbonate as well as the feel on her end as one of her favorite things is go use my caged member to stimulate herself to orgasm. It's hot and an amazing tease for me, and she worries the steel won't do the same job, I guess. But beyond, between the CB6ks and the HTv2 with two rings and anti-pullout we tried, the investment for our experimentation so far is a lot for us. Plus the idea of waiting weeks and weeks going back and forth to get things just right is a bit of a bummer. But in the end it seems like the right thing to do.

Any recommendations on manufacturers that are relatively quick and responsive?