Short cages, an escape question

[Spaceman]

Miss Emmie’s find of the s160 for Herb also stuck a chord in our quest for the next cage. My kh requested I go as short as comfortably doable .. for long term wear. HOD makes it sound like it will arrive in 5-7 days. 2cm…. Whew. Will be sweating this one.

It looks impossible but works a treat.
Totally solid. No movement at all.

I agree with totally solid and no movement.

I would add that this somehow feels tighter, even the ring feels tighter despite being the self same ring that I use for other HOD cages.

The no movement means it's comfortable though.

Only slight downside, or something to bear in mind at least, is that being tight makes it more difficult to keep as clean. Getting water from the shower hose into everywhere takes time and drying afterwards isn't so easy either. It's possible, but you need to take a bit more time over it.

My experience of the last week is exactly the same. The only thing I would add is waking up a few times some nights straining to expand and absolutely nowhere to go. But that's got less as the week has progressed.

I only dropped from 3cm to 2cm and that was a bit of a shock, more so than when I was moved from 5cm to 3cm.

[KnownAsHerbert]

As of last night, I'm back in the S160 from House of Denial.
As @Spaceman says "straining to expand and absolutely nowhere to go".

Only had 5 nights in the Cobra and now back to this!

[Vinny51]

I use the Baby sized Viper cage from Kink3D. No problems with falling out. In fact, after 25 years of wearing very small cages daily I have never fallen out of a cage. In fact, smaller cages make pulling out much more difficult. Also pay attention to the width because the wider the cage the easier it is to pull out I had a very small cage that was not barrow. I could stick my finger all the way into it when wearing it. Easy to pull out. However, what few admit about chastity cages is that you can orgasm in any model. Just watch porn. A vibrator will make you orgasm as will inserting a swab into an opening and jerking off with that. The reality is that self control is needed a most quit chastity after a few weeks.

I spent 20 years on the honor system and 15 years locked in a cage except for medical reasons and a two week break each year. I could orgasm in any of the 20+ cages I owned one way or another. My point is no matter what you buy or its size, if you want to orgadm you can in someway. Do not think it is the cage that keeps you orgasm free, it is self control. Just ask Tom as I have followed him since before there were forums like this. This is why most on chastity forums disappear in a month or so. If you are expecting a cage to prevent you from having orgasms, you are wrong. They are no more effective than wedding bands preventing cheating on your wives. At best they are speed bumps to give you time to reflect on what you are about to do.


On the other hand if you have sex daily and lots of orgasms while playing chastity, it is a moot point since there is no extended orgasm denial periods. Few go months between orgasms. It took me years to get to that point. In 15 years I pulled out once and used a swab once to orgasm but that was because my wife had major surgery and was bedridden for months.

My point is to get a cage that is comfortable to wear 24/7/365 as you can orgasm in any cage despite the porn fiction you read. For gosh sake you can watch porn and see how men orgasm while locked. Vibrators work great, Ansley is good and unless your penis is very long, pulling out is easy.as is sticking something in a cage opening and jerking off with it. So go fr comfort as that is what stops many from wearing a cage.

[Curiousrk]

My point is to get a cage that is comfortable to wear 24/7/365

The folks at Mature Metal helped me do that 18 months ago. The Jail Bird is so perfectly sized to my anatomy. I’ve gone 30 days no removal to clean or for any other reason. So it’s solid. Since Feb 17 I’ve been locked in the JB 95 percent of the time. Not as long as some here but maybe not bad for a newbie either. The custom cage does help.

However a cage change as part of the ongoing chastity play is fun too. It’s great to have one that is perfect but also to have models that my key holder wants to put me in for whatever reason she wants. A bigger one or a smaller one or a different color or whatever. I also need at least one plastic one that I can use for metal detectors once every couple months in my work world. The scanners are more sensitive than airport detectors and I don’t want my work world to know why they are triggered when the wand passes over my groin.

Sorry to the OP, if this thread has taken a turn and discussion isn’t helpful. I’ll stop now.

One thing I would say about pull out and cage shortness is that with a shorter cage it probably takes more time being alone hiding in the bathroom, to pull out, jerk off, and re-insert without getting noticed. A longer one may be easier to do that quickly. I have such little free time I don’t think I could get alone long enough. Also because a change in my behavior would be noticed from the post orgasm drop.

But also ease of escape depends on gap between cage and base ring. So it’s all about experimenting. Just have fun with it and embrace the journey with long short metal plastic custom and off the shelf. FWIW.

[Spaceman]

Taking this further as its been indicated a flat might be on the cards, but a urethral tube is not happening, so thinking of a barred flat, like this https://www.houseofdenial.com/collectio ... l-hod-s154. Which should enable peeing without mess as well as cleaning.

Not going there yet but kind of preparing my brain if the command comes about.

I do now know that escape / falling out is perversely more difficult in a shorter cage, not that I have any wish to escape, I find i'm very compliant nowadays.

[Mr Pickle]

Got to admit. I do like the look of that one.
I do have the uretheral for peeing whilst standing and hygene, its only a short one with these. but it is nice to be able to shower and use a hair dryer to dry off. This has enough gapage to do that where as mine doesn't so is more dificultto clean and dry.

[less_is_more]

I would like to go smaller. Currently I'm on the HoD S107 Small, that actually isn't particularly small for me.
With the S99 Small I have the problem, that nightly erections pull everything really far away from my body.The S99 then sits like a small cap on my tip, the shaft is bent. Neither sexy nor unpainful. Obviously I need to use a string.
Many experiments did reveal that I need a 3 point string/harness.
What kind of strings do you use? Do you wear it 24/7 or only in the nights?And what after showering, when it's wet? Soft leather would be nice but I'm.concerned about the leather dyes that might dye my skin, when wet.

[Herman]

Not being an expert, but based on your description of the problem you are having, you might want to try a smaller ring. I was having a problem like what you described, and a smaller ring resolved my issue. Might be easier to live with than a string or belt.

[mikel2411]

I've only been in full time chastity for about four years, not twenty four seven but getting closer, normally a month or two straight a few times three or four months straight. Normally only out for switching units or medical reasons but I have tried too many units to count. I literally have a box full of "Experiments" with another box of useable units. My goal has always been full security and denial when chastised, when I got a unit with a glans ring it prevented pull out perfectly, with it being relatively short having solid steel behind the head cage made tampering with ring extremely difficult and if I could manage to get out of the glans ring there was no way to get back in.
When I started trying to orgasm in unit I quickly found out the glans ring became painful from the vibrations, if I tried too much it would actually chafe under the ring forcing me to switch units until it healed.
I started experimenting with urethral tubes finding the correct size and length mounted on cages before trying tubes with larger heads inside the chastity cage. I have recently got what I think is the correct diameter and length urethra tube with a large dome head that I am currently wearing under my glands ring unit. It also helps when urinating, much easier since I bored out center.
Between the glans ring and urethral tube I have failed at every attempt to orgasm while caged and the longer urethral tube adds another difficulty in pulling out since its longer than the cage, sticks out of cage by an inch and a half, so even though its not attached to cage I have yet to be able to push myself back far enough to get near the end of the tube.
This I think has allowed me to find the "perfect" unit FOR ME, its secure and so far will prevent orgasms from all the traditional ways I have heard of.
Base ring size and shape are very important, I started out using a 50mm base ring now down to 44mm and found the smaller rings more comfortable, along with gap, I recently got a new unit with a smaller gap that can only be worn a day or two before chafing on bottom of testies in front of ring starts. I am assuming its because of the gap difference since I have no issues like that with any other unit.
I am currently waiting on a new unit made like my current glans ring unit but with the cage 15mm shorter and 4mm more narrow. I have enjoyed wearing smaller units so I hope this will be my last "experiment". But you know I always keep an eye out for new designs just for fun.
Keep trying
Mikel