Short cages, an escape question

[KHEmmi]

We've not met but don't forget, great minds think alike.

[Curiousrk]

Miss Emmie’s find of the s160 for Herb also stuck a chord in our quest for the next cage. My kh requested I go as short as comfortably doable .. for long term wear. HOD makes it sound like it will arrive in 5-7 days. 2cm…. Whew. Will be sweating this one.

[KHEmmi]

Miss Emmie’s find of the s160 for Herb also stuck a chord in our quest for the next cage. My kh requested I go as short as comfortably doable .. for long term wear. HOD makes it sound like it will arrive in 5-7 days. 2cm…. Whew. Will be sweating this one.

It looks impossible but works a treat.
Totally solid. No movement at all.

[KnownAsHerbert]

Miss Emmie’s find of the s160 for Herb also stuck a chord in our quest for the next cage. My kh requested I go as short as comfortably doable .. for long term wear. HOD makes it sound like it will arrive in 5-7 days. 2cm…. Whew. Will be sweating this one.

It looks impossible but works a treat.
Totally solid. No movement at all.

I agree with totally solid and no movement.

I would add that this somehow feels tighter, even the ring feels tighter despite being the self same ring that I use for other HOD cages.

The no movement means it's comfortable though.

Only slight downside, or something to bear in mind at least, is that being tight makes it more difficult to keep as clean. Getting water from the shower hose into everywhere takes time and drying afterwards isn't so easy either. It's possible, but you need to take a bit more time over it.

[Curiousrk]

Hmm tight and no movement…. I guess that is a good thing haha. Hopefully it pleases the KH! That’s the main point.

Have you attempted to check compatibility of a non-hinged base ring with the cage? Or does it only work with the hinged ring? That’s probably my biggest concern.

[KHEmmi]

Hmm tight and no movement…. I guess that is a good thing haha. Hopefully it pleases the KH! That’s the main point.

I can confirm that it is a good thing and it pleases me a lot!

Have you attempted to check compatibility of a non-hinged base ring with the cage? Or does it only work with the hinged ring? That’s probably my biggest concern.

The HOD website has a list of cages compatible with the hinged ring and another list compatible with the solid ring, so I don't think they are interchangeable. I haven't looked into a solid ring from anywhere else, because Herbi hasn't had any problems with the hinged one. The only negative is that it's a quite fiddly to put on but as I've said to him, it's not as if he's going to be taking it off and putting it back on every five minutes.

[Vinny51]

First off a reality check. Anyone can pull out of a chastity cage unless you are pierced. I have been locked 15 years and seen all but a few Men stick with chastity longer than a few months. Many reasons but the dirty secret of chastity is that most of us can make ourselves orgasm whenever we want. Don’t believe me, just look at porn. If a woman can make you orgasm with a vibrator so can you. Heck, you can insert a stick and jerk off. Once I came simply by jerking off my cage. So let’s not pretend that a cage s going to force us to be orgasm free.

To succeed in chastity you need self control as I learned and practice. Well, most times because I am a realist. So don’t worry about the size of the cage. If you want to orgasm you can do so easily even if pierced by using a vibrator. This is why almost everyone gives up on chastity within a few months. Just check all the old posts on any chastity site to see with a very few exceptions they are gone. Heck, even the marketing manager of the CB line stated that 90% of their cages end up in a drawer after a few weeks in an old interview.

Yes you can enjoy a cage during sex under supervision but to wear it 24/7 for months without an orgasm is rare. I have been following chastity before the internet was graphical. I have followed Tom when he was publishing his chastity journal. Other than him, no ne else I knew lasted long.

My point is that we all go into chastity excited by porn but after the reality sinks in and you actually feel the effects, it is much different than what you felt watching or reading about it in porn. So unless you have a lot of self control, don’t worry about pulling out as there are other ways to orgasm in a cage.

I did 20 years on the honor system because my wife had a live in female lover she is not a penis fan but loves men, just not sexually as much as women. Am on 15 years locked. I cheated once by pulling out after 5 months of orgasm denial and once 8 years ago by using a swab on a stick. Very easy to orgasm after months of denial. And yes, I did cheat about a dozen times over the 20 years on the honor system. Much easier to not cheat back then since I was having threesomes 4-5 times a week and allowed to cum while under sexual pain a few nights a week.

Checkout Kink3D FAQ and others who clearly state that you can pull out of any ball trap cage so self control is needed. Not a big problem if you are having sex once or twice a day and getting orgasms. A big problem when your Domme is trying to wean you off all orgasms.

Just wanted to insert some reality any know Tom Allen would agree that to go long periods without an orgasm requires a lot of self control, not only by the cage wearer but also by a loving key holder. Just as a wedding ring does not prevent cheating on your spouse, so it is for chastity cages. Self control is the only real chastity method.

[Curiousrk]

Hmm tight and no movement…. I guess that is a good thing haha. Hopefully it pleases the KH! That’s the main point.

I can confirm that it is a good thing and it pleases me a lot!

Have you attempted to check compatibility of a non-hinged base ring with the cage? Or does it only work with the hinged ring? That’s probably my biggest concern.

The HOD website has a list of cages compatible with the hinged ring and another list compatible with the solid ring, so I don't think they are interchangeable. I haven't looked into a solid ring from anywhere else, because Herbi hasn't had any problems with the hinged one. The only negative is that it's a quite fiddly to put on but as I've said to him, it's not as if he's going to be taking it off and putting it back on every five minutes.

Thanks Miss Emmie. Will be interesting to see how this device works. I am hoping my KH will prescribe different cages from time to time the way you do for Herb. It’s a really cool dimension in your chastity play. I’ll get this device and probably be directed to try it right away. I think she will appreciate the 2cm compared to the 5cm Jail Bird I have now! It will be like going from a palace to a one bedroom flat (well it will nearly be a flat cage).

[Spaceman]

Hmm tight and no movement…. I guess that is a good thing haha. Hopefully it pleases the KH! That’s the main point.

Have you attempted to check compatibility of a non-hinged base ring with the cage? Or does it only work with the hinged ring? That’s probably my biggest concern.

I asked HoD about that and only the hinged ring is compatible. They did say they would talk to their suppliers about making a solid ring available, as all the cages of this size or smaller only seem to come with a hinged ring.

As my wife is talking about the next jump already i've been looking at flats, and can only find the more open style she prefers with a hinge.

However I've now been wearing the 2cm with a hinge for a week and its been fine.

[Curiousrk]

I asked HoD about that and only the hinged ring is compatible. They did say they would talk to their suppliers about making a solid ring available, as all the cages of this size or smaller only seem to come with a hinged ring.

However I've now been wearing the 2cm with a hinge for a week and its been fine.

Thanks @spaceman!