Dealing with being "submissive"

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It's not human nature to give to others what you lack yourself.
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poor wrote:It's not human nature to give to others what you lack yourself.
Really? How so?
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In order to give something away you must first have more than you need to sustain yourself. I've found that those who are deficient of love within themselves are the ones that are least able to love anyone else.

My own submission wavers when I'm not on top of the rest of my life. When things are going well I can take myself further down that path. In some ways it's a counterbalance to (or possibly a gauge for) the rest of my psyche.
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poor wrote:It's not human nature to give to others what you lack yourself.
I think love puts a big crimp into this quote.

Tell a parent that. I think most would give so the children could have.

In our earlier (lean) years of marriage I would often give up things I wanted so LRC could have something she wanted. She would do the same for me. Funny now but, sometimes we would even argue about this. Each wanted to give to the other.
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Locked by LRC wrote:In our earlier (lean) years of marriage I would often give up things I wanted so LRC could have something she wanted. She would do the same for me.
Did I ever tell you about the time my wife cut and sold her hair so she could buy me a fob for my grandfather's pocket watch, which I had sold so I could buy a silver brush and mirror for her hair? It was around Christmas, as I recall...
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poor wrote:It's not human nature to give to others what you lack yourself.
Tell our government that line... they give our funds to others while out country is going down the tubes, but I digress...

Want your watch back?
I'll sell it to you for a copy of my keyholders key *weg*

The lack of human nature line I feel doesn't hold true on a number of situations... consider those whom place their lives on the line such as firefighters or the military for those that are needing assistance. Or those who attempt to rescue a child in a dangerous situation, they are giving of themselves often with the knowledge they are lacking the outcome to survive them self. There are many examples that the "lack" can be equated to.

Back to Bleaus' original thought concerning the less dominate persona, I think it's something he's (your) just going to have to work though. Wearing the device or not wearing the device shouldn't make any difference to your visualization as who you perceive yourself to be, at least I don't believe it should... nobody knows your wearing it besides yourself and your wife. Unless she's giving you indicators that shes holding the key so you had better agree with what she is saying then I would think you can be your ol'onery self *g*

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Diverse and interesting responses but you fellas are way above me on this. You're talking (super)ego; what we think (we want to be). I'm talking id; what we are.
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