The Permanent Chastity/Denial Matrix

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I'm a 9,6 I think. It's always on (and yes, my doctor has seen it) - except for the increasingly rare short breaks when she release me for PIV with my "birth" cock (versus her more frequent adventures with her vixskin). Been five weeks since the last time she got out the key. I think 6 -- usually denied. Some of you get an orgasm or two a year -- I get one roughly monthly (though I get the distinct feeling frequency is going down, perhaps precipitously, now that she realizes how much she enjoys the vixskin and has no shame in demanding it).
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This is a fun discussion, but, it's hard to even define what "locked" is. I was chatting the other day with someone online that indicated he had been locked for 136 days. As we chatted further about the logistics of long term lockups, I discovered that he "can't sleep in it" and it is removed for cleaning and sleeping every single night and he is only allowed to cum once a week. In my terminology, that meant he had been locked for 6 hours. In his terminology, he is bragging about being locked for 136 days simply because he has worn it for at least an hour for 136 days straight...
We are both correct in our reasoning. Which one is accurate?
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We are both correct in our reasoning. Which one is accurate?
Umm, no, you're not both correct. I can't imagine anyone else thinking that just wearing it a few hours a day counts as being locked up all the time.

That said there are going to be guys like this. The purpose of this chart is to help guys define and explain their chaste/locked situation. I certainly do not want to be the chastity police, and determine if somebody is doing it correctly.

Just worry about your own situation - that's all you can do.
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Per the Tom scale, I’m a 9, 5
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Tom Allen wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:41 pm
We are both correct in our reasoning. Which one is accurate?
Umm, no, you're not both correct. I can't imagine anyone else thinking that just wearing it a few hours a day counts as being locked up all the time.
When my wife and I first started, I would be locked up after dinner, until bed time. Then, that expanded to until I woke up. Those could be intense “sessions”, but the first time I went to truly 24 hours for a few days, I realized there was just no comparison. It certainly wasn’t a linear change in intensity.
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Per the latest scale from Tom:

7/4.5
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Tom Allen wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:30 pm
Also, somebody suggested that for X (chastity) 8,9,10 that removal was only for non-sexual reasons. I kind of like that distinction, but I wonder if it's not overlapping too much with Y (denial).
I like that - I'd suggest the top end something like this:

5: Wears it roughly half the time.
6: Wears it more often than not.
7: Wears it pretty much all the time, unlocked for certain occasions but always relocked immediately after.
8: Always worn, rare removals for non-sexual reasons (medical, travel, etc.). Locked for all sexual activity.
9: Always worn, including travel, and their doctor has seen it. Locked for all sexual activity.
10: Essentially permanently installed.
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Hmmm, and in addition to where you are on the matrix, what about offsets to where you wish you were? For instance, one guy might be an enthusiastic 3,2 (+3,+3) - meaning he wishes he was a 6,5 - and the old vet cautioning him "be careful what you wish for" might be an 8,8 (-1, -1).

Me? 4, 4 (+3,+2) at the moment, though next year, I think we'll hit the 7.
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I wonder if "locked for fun" could provide examples of his 1-4. I like the presentation of 5-10.
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Hmmm, and in addition to where you are on the matrix, what about offsets to where you wish you were?
Offsets. Man, you guys are even weirder and nerdier than I am. :lol:

Also, I t\should remove the word "permanent" from this title, because obviously this scale applies to a variety of situations. It's just that it came up while I was discussing the idea of permanent, and noticed how much of the conversations was derailed by guys defining and clarifying.
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