Looking to Get the Sizing Right

[lockedbill]

I've had a Mature Metal Jailbird for a couple of months and realize that the size isn't right; hoping you experts can make some recommendations.

Ring Size
The ring size is 1-7/8" but I can fit two fingers in under the cock ring when I'm flaccid. I could probably force three in if I tried. I'm thinking 1-5/8" would be a better size but I'm concerned that it's going to be really small.

Gap
The only pain I feel when wearing this is at the bottom of my sack where it's trapped between the ring and the cage. Lube helps with this, and so will more time wearing it, I presume, but it can be a really intense burning sensation at times. The current gap is 1/2". Should I go a little bigger or just work into it over time?

Cage Size
The sides of the head of my penis touch the cage at all times, but the shaft does not. The head of my penis is touching or close to touching the end of the cage although it tends to kind of get "caught" further up when I move around. A simple poke of my finger through the top of the cage pushes the head down where it belongs. The cage is 2-1/4" long with a 1-1/4" tube, definitely too large (despite weeks of measuring and planning!). I'm thinking of going to 2" length and 1" tube. I'm not worried about the length being too much of a problem either way but how tight should that tube be? 1" seems like a challenge. That's probably the biggest question I have (as it's the most expensive to fix).

One of the things I'm thrown by here is the term "normal flaccid" state. I have one of those, of course, but I also have an even more flaccid state that is not that unusual. Should I be fitting for that smallest version? The smaller the cage the more manageable (e.g., under clothes) but too small is, well, too small...

I know it's difficult to answer these precisely, but curious what others think. Thank you!

[locked4her55]

Hey lockedbill, Sorry to hear you are having a tough time with your JB. I think the majority of us, with just a little tweaking can achieve a perfect fit.

Since you asked, here's my two cents:

Three fingers under the base ring is too much. MM can adjust that down for you for a $10.00 charge. If you thought that 1 5/8" would be too small, they can do something in between. Reach out to them as they would know better. They are wonderful people to do business with and truly want you to be satisfied and happy with their product.

As for your gap, 3/8" is pretty standard for most guys. Then there are those that need to go 1/2". It does sound like from what you described that there is a problem with the gap so you could always have MM open that up for you a bit. Many here have described (including me) how easy it is to alter the gap size yourself. If you felt so inclined, you might try to give it a shot yourself.

Now as for your cage size, you will hear it all the time from our membership, "I wish I had gone smaller". MM can't do anything about the inside diameter and in the end you just might have to purchase something different, but if I may make a suggestion. How about you send your JB back and have the base ring re-sized for the $10.00 charge. While it's there, have them adjust the gap for you and then try wearing it for a few days to a week. Use lube multiple times a day. Once after a shower, once before bed and maybe a few times during the day. Just to acclimate to the device. Then if after a week you really find the cage isn't cutting it for you then you could go to plan B and either sell it or shelve it.

I'm sure others here will give you some good advice too. Filter through it all and make a decision that works for you.

Good Luck.

[locked4her55]

OK then, Scrap my last post. I just saw that you have it up for sale.

Guess I need to start reading the threads from the bottom to the top.

[Locked by LRC]

I'll take a shot at your questions. Like locked4her55 I see your device is for sale. I'm assuming you're going to get a new one and are looking for advice for a new one?

First I'm making another assumption. You said; "The only pain I feel when wearing this is at the bottom of my sack where it's trapped between the ring and the cage." I assume what you meant was; the top of the sack where it's trapped between the ring and the cage.

From my experience, I think your cage size is causing problems with your irritation. I have the same problem with the head being bigger than the shaft. My first device from MM I ordered the cage size the same way did, to fit the head. I had a 3/8" gap. I had loads of room around the shaft and had irritation on the top of the sack like you describe.

The next device I ordered I went to a 1 1/8" cage. This fit around the shaft better and the head is "gripped" by the cage. I really gives it a tight, secure feeling. This also improved the irritation by 90%. After wearing this new device for about a month I seldom needed lube. I've had this device for years now and use lube maybe once or twice a month. Sometimes I go a couple of months without any lube.

I read that someone with the shaft/head problem ordered a small ring at the cage opening and a larger ring at the head area. I've thought about doing this if I get another device.

Ring Size Problem - I agree with locked4her55 that a jump to 1 5/8" might be to much. I would recommend you order two base rings. One at 1 3/4" and another at 1 5/8". Rings are relatively inexpensive and many find they can move down a size after wearing a device for a while. If you get only one ring now MM needs you to send the cage back for a new ring.

Cage Length - My first device was 2 1/8". Maybe half the time I wasn't at the end. My second device I shortened it to 2" and now I'm almost always at the end.

[lockedbill]

Thank you guys for your insight. I'm going to try your advice on for size (literally and figuratively) and go from there. Very helpful, for sure.

[lockedbill]

The next device I ordered I went to a 1 1/8" cage. This fit around the shaft better and the head is "gripped" by the cage. I really gives it a tight, secure feeling. This also improved the irritation by 90%. After wearing this new device for about a month I seldom needed lube. I've had this device for years now and use lube maybe once or twice a month. Sometimes I go a couple of months without any lube.

How tight should that cage be? You say above that it gripped the head. Only? How tight is the cage around the shaft? That "I should've gone smaller idea" makes me want to, well, go smaller as much as I can. But at some point it just ain't gonna fit...

[Locked by LRC]

When I had the larger cage I could feel a large amount of sway/movement at the base. Going the next size down fixed that. When I would be in the state of being smaller flaccid, everything would bounce around inside. Think cooler temperatures.

When I went to the smaller size it took care of these problems. The head is held by the cages end there isn't the swaying like I had before. This is probably a personal thing but it's one I'm happy with.

The smaller size is enough that I have small indentations around the rim of the crown when I remove the device. In a few seconds these disappear and everything looks normal. With the sponginess of the head I'm able to squeeze it down when cleaning.

I think if you get a cage too small it can cause other problems. i.e.-cleaning, erection, etc..

Remember the fit of the chastity device is very personal. Everyone here has found what works the best for them. What is fantastic for one may suck for another. All we can do is toss ideas and suggestions out and hopefully you'll find something that works for you.

[lockedbill]

This is exactly the feedback I was looking for. I appreciate you taking the time to write it.

I'm about settled in on what I'm getting this time around, and your description above is a big part of that. Thanks again. When I get this thing in a few weeks, I'll be sure to share what's up with it.

[Finn]

I have a few devices. One is a 6000s. I got the s, because it's the most discreet under clothing. I am a bit big for the small cage, and tend to bulge out of the pee hole. This causes serious chafing issues, to the point of having to remove it for several days. I mcGyvered that by cutting a small square of 1/8" craft foam out, and inserting that into the pee hole area. It still allows breathing, and pee can escape, if I forget to remove it. I tried covering the hole with a silicone insert, but that led to pretty much a yeast infection down there. Better to breathe somewhat! I switch between a metal, ring type device, that's more open, and my 6000s.

[lockedbill]

If you're interested in where I ended up:

Ring Size
I went with 1-3/4" but with a double base ring. I think it's the perfect size for the long term and the double ring makes it much, much more comfortable.

Gap
I stayed with a 1/2" gap. My balls are always pulled up tight (after my wife gets through with them) and that's just what I need. It's more comfortable with the new cage than it was with the old one. I'm confident now that it will just take some getting used to (vs. it's the wrong size altogether).

Cage Size
I can imagine someday buying a new device measuring 1" at the base and 1-1/8" for the head, but I went with a 1-1/8 tube which I think is exactly right for now. "Slightly snug" is how I'd put it and like Locked by LRC, very subtle indentations are left on my head when the cage comes off.

The only thing I got wrong is the length. I dropped from 2-1/8" to 1-3/4" but I think that it's probably more like 1-1/4". Working with MM right now on that.

I don't suppose anyone wants to keep acknowledging smaller and smaller, but there it is. I'm pretty small when I'm soft, I guess, although I think I'm more average or even a tick above when I'm hard. But still, those are small numbers to cope with

I appreciate everyone's input. It was extremely helpful!