David's Year of Orgasm Denial
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davidphd1866
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Ooops....JustPlaying....not Justforfun...my apologies.
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Hi David.
No specific bits. It was a long time ago that I read it. I would say that she never managed it, and each time she failed, because that's how she saw it, it rocked her back emotionally. It was also a more emotional experience than she had expected.
The third reason I was concerned you have clarified. That this is less about the forum being a pseudo play partner and more about a mutual experiment.
So go, have fun. But don't set yourself up for failure be having strong expectations.
M
No specific bits. It was a long time ago that I read it. I would say that she never managed it, and each time she failed, because that's how she saw it, it rocked her back emotionally. It was also a more emotional experience than she had expected.
The third reason I was concerned you have clarified. That this is less about the forum being a pseudo play partner and more about a mutual experiment.
So go, have fun. But don't set yourself up for failure be having strong expectations.
M
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David you have mentioned several times that you feel wife is not sexually satisfied because you have a sub normal sized penis. In her posts she doesn't say this and when you said that it around 5 inches...
Well...
I quote "According to the Kinsey Institute, many American men mistakenly think the average erect penis is 25 cm (almost 10 inches) long, and worry that they do not measure up.
The University of California researchers measured the penises of 80 normal men and published their results in the Journal of Urology in 1996. They found that:
* without an erection (limp), the average length was 8.8 cm (just under 3.5 inches)
* the average flaccid (limp) penis could be stretched to 12.4 cm (about 4.75 inches)
* the average length when erect was 12.9 cm (just over 5 inches).
I can't find the data (Google?) but Durex Condoms did a world wide survey and found that while there were men less endowed and a few slightly more that these numbers were accurate world wide.
Most books that I've read on performing sex state that intercourse alone rarely causes female orgasm and that including manual sex or things like vibes are a must for success. Many couples simple do male to female oral sex and finish with intercourse so both are satisfied in the bedroom. Anyway., if your doing this simply because your unhappy with how endowed you are at least don't think its because your abnormal! Your totally NOT!
Well...
I quote "According to the Kinsey Institute, many American men mistakenly think the average erect penis is 25 cm (almost 10 inches) long, and worry that they do not measure up.
The University of California researchers measured the penises of 80 normal men and published their results in the Journal of Urology in 1996. They found that:
* without an erection (limp), the average length was 8.8 cm (just under 3.5 inches)
* the average flaccid (limp) penis could be stretched to 12.4 cm (about 4.75 inches)
* the average length when erect was 12.9 cm (just over 5 inches).
I can't find the data (Google?) but Durex Condoms did a world wide survey and found that while there were men less endowed and a few slightly more that these numbers were accurate world wide.
Most books that I've read on performing sex state that intercourse alone rarely causes female orgasm and that including manual sex or things like vibes are a must for success. Many couples simple do male to female oral sex and finish with intercourse so both are satisfied in the bedroom. Anyway., if your doing this simply because your unhappy with how endowed you are at least don't think its because your abnormal! Your totally NOT!
Re: David's Year of Orgasm Denial
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justplaying
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Re: David's Year of Orgasm Denial
David;
I didn't even notice...just for fun, just playing, easy to transpose...after reading the earlier post : )
After watching one of the shortest World Series games ever....I started thinking about what would be interesting data to find on the subject of Male Chastity....I kept coming up with two paths; physical, psychological (which in this case I would include anything labeled "emotional").
From my own experience the amount of time that I spend locked up is purely based on hygiene, comfort, and travel/business. But that's just me and I haven't graduated to the steel club yet (although I have to say they look very hot!). So, measurements of How long have you been locked up? How often do you have an erection in the tube? etc. Are not as interesting to me personally as, " How would I rate my feelings on day X for the following: Thinking random sexual thoughts, how many times per hr? day? Thinking about sex with only my key holder? how many times per hr? day? (Whichever metric makes sense) Would I say on day X I am in a Great mood?, Good mood?, Grumpy mood?, Get away from me mood? AND I would really hope to have this same sort of data about the Key Holder.
I think you need both types of data sets; physical and psychological to prove out the cause and effect correlation. As an Economist I think you can appreciate that, for sure. : ) Also, any experiment requires an hypothesis. Do you have one? When I read your background it seemed like you and your wife had decided to try playing this game for a specific reason. I have to say it was amazingly similar to the reason that my wife and I started it, same issues longer marriage. Anyway, if I may offer a possible hypothesis for you to consider perhaps you can refine it. "How does Male Chastity change the relationship of a married couple with respect to their attitude towards consensual sex play and their feelings for one another?" Although, not a scientist, I realize this needs to be written in the form of an answer...but I don't feel like doing it...
What I have found in reading between the lines of many of these Blogs, is that Male Chastity clearly has a positive impact on both the sexual pleasure that each of the couples gives and receives through the chastity period AND by definition changes the attitude of how we men, feel about our key holder, wives. The only part I haven't reached the point of understanding yet, is the idea that I really don't want an orgasm. I think there is some subtle context here that I keep missing when reading the blogs. I keep hearing about how, men who have experienced very long locked up periods and have been periodically released, do not want to come to orgasm, but merely be edged. I like edgeing a lot myself, so that part I get. But I have read that after about 10 days of denial, physically it doesn't really matter if you don't orgasm for longer periods of time. Yet, psychologically? I think that is a huge difference and that's the thing your One Year experiment could help explain.
Alright then, I don't have much more on that topic....regards, just playing
I didn't even notice...just for fun, just playing, easy to transpose...after reading the earlier post : )
After watching one of the shortest World Series games ever....I started thinking about what would be interesting data to find on the subject of Male Chastity....I kept coming up with two paths; physical, psychological (which in this case I would include anything labeled "emotional").
From my own experience the amount of time that I spend locked up is purely based on hygiene, comfort, and travel/business. But that's just me and I haven't graduated to the steel club yet (although I have to say they look very hot!). So, measurements of How long have you been locked up? How often do you have an erection in the tube? etc. Are not as interesting to me personally as, " How would I rate my feelings on day X for the following: Thinking random sexual thoughts, how many times per hr? day? Thinking about sex with only my key holder? how many times per hr? day? (Whichever metric makes sense) Would I say on day X I am in a Great mood?, Good mood?, Grumpy mood?, Get away from me mood? AND I would really hope to have this same sort of data about the Key Holder.
I think you need both types of data sets; physical and psychological to prove out the cause and effect correlation. As an Economist I think you can appreciate that, for sure. : ) Also, any experiment requires an hypothesis. Do you have one? When I read your background it seemed like you and your wife had decided to try playing this game for a specific reason. I have to say it was amazingly similar to the reason that my wife and I started it, same issues longer marriage. Anyway, if I may offer a possible hypothesis for you to consider perhaps you can refine it. "How does Male Chastity change the relationship of a married couple with respect to their attitude towards consensual sex play and their feelings for one another?" Although, not a scientist, I realize this needs to be written in the form of an answer...but I don't feel like doing it...
What I have found in reading between the lines of many of these Blogs, is that Male Chastity clearly has a positive impact on both the sexual pleasure that each of the couples gives and receives through the chastity period AND by definition changes the attitude of how we men, feel about our key holder, wives. The only part I haven't reached the point of understanding yet, is the idea that I really don't want an orgasm. I think there is some subtle context here that I keep missing when reading the blogs. I keep hearing about how, men who have experienced very long locked up periods and have been periodically released, do not want to come to orgasm, but merely be edged. I like edgeing a lot myself, so that part I get. But I have read that after about 10 days of denial, physically it doesn't really matter if you don't orgasm for longer periods of time. Yet, psychologically? I think that is a huge difference and that's the thing your One Year experiment could help explain.
Alright then, I don't have much more on that topic....regards, just playing
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Personally I wonder how that happens myself. *The desire to be locked rather then to reach climax. I have a feeling that there are many stories and wank-fest material that is more fiction then reality but I can't say from my experience.
I've read a few of the stories from (For example) Altar Boy that all end in "And he was happily locked up forever - The end" to which I figured was maybe happy for the women in the story who now had several male studs regularly servicing her but?! Sheesh....
I've read a few of the stories from (For example) Altar Boy that all end in "And he was happily locked up forever - The end" to which I figured was maybe happy for the women in the story who now had several male studs regularly servicing her but?! Sheesh....
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davidphd1866
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Re: David's Year of Orgasm Denial
Ughhh! I just wrote a huge reply and my server timed me out.......so I have to start again.
Thank you all for your comments. Mykey: I appreciate your concern about such a tough challenge and its effects on the emotional well being. Rest assured, success or failure, I won't be too upset--nor too proud.
Justplayingforfun (dee har), I think you really hit the nail on the head. Establishing a hypothesis is the right way to go. Too much of our chastity information is normative or anecdotal. If there is ANYTHING, however mundane, that we can learn from an actual observation, it would be useful for our group.
This is exactly what I was hoping for. Can we as a group make a hypothesis and then we set about to either accept or reject it?
Maybe we can plot a curve of mood/time or locked time/mood etc.
Some ideas:
Will wet dreams occur if locked for a year? (n=1)
Does locked time correlate positively with mood?
Does orgasm-free time correlate with mood?
Does intercourse-free time correlate with wife's mood?
Do number of wife's orgasms increase with lock up time?
etc. etc.
I welcome ideas. What do we really want to know?
David
Thank you all for your comments. Mykey: I appreciate your concern about such a tough challenge and its effects on the emotional well being. Rest assured, success or failure, I won't be too upset--nor too proud.
Justplayingforfun (dee har), I think you really hit the nail on the head. Establishing a hypothesis is the right way to go. Too much of our chastity information is normative or anecdotal. If there is ANYTHING, however mundane, that we can learn from an actual observation, it would be useful for our group.
This is exactly what I was hoping for. Can we as a group make a hypothesis and then we set about to either accept or reject it?
Maybe we can plot a curve of mood/time or locked time/mood etc.
Some ideas:
Will wet dreams occur if locked for a year? (n=1)
Does locked time correlate positively with mood?
Does orgasm-free time correlate with mood?
Does intercourse-free time correlate with wife's mood?
Do number of wife's orgasms increase with lock up time?
etc. etc.
I welcome ideas. What do we really want to know?
David
Re: David's Year of Orgasm Denial
Hi David I wish you good luck and look forward to seeing how you and your partner get on. I had bez locked up for a month once and ended up giving him extra days for complaining but thinking back I think a certain amount of the compalints were probably the emotion of being locked by somebody. Once he had got through the first couple of weeks and new he wasn't coming out he settled down. I think you will need and by reading your thread will get the support of your keyholder which will help when times get difficult. Once again good luck Sally
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Good start but let's write these the right way...LOLWill wet dreams occur if locked for a year? (n=1)
Does locked time correlate positively with mood?
Does orgasm-free time correlate with mood?
Does intercourse-free time correlate with wife's mood?
Do number of wife's orgasms increase with lock up time?
What is the relationship between time locked (measured in days, weeks, and months) and mood?
H0: There is no relationship between time locked and mood.
Ha: There is a relationship between time locked and mood.
Measures: Time locked, daily diary kept by David
Mood: Profile of Mood Inventory (POMS) completed at baseline and then bi-weekly (26 data points)
NB: I don't think we have enough data to specify a direction for the correlation in the alternative hypothesis.
What is the relationship between time locked (measured in days, weeks, and months) and depression?
H0: There is no relationship between time locked and depression.
Ha: There is a relationship between time locked and depression.
Measures: Time locked, daily diary kept by David
Mood: PHQ-9, a short depression screening inventory completed at baseline and then bi-weekly (26 data points)
NB: I don't think we have enough data to specify a direction for the correlation in the alternative hypothesis.
If you wife is willing to complete the POMS and the PHQ-9 then I would suggest she do them on the same schedule as you. Then there would be two more questions:
What is the relationship between time locked (for David) and his wife's mood as measured by the POMS?
What is the relationship between time locked (for David) and his wife's level of depression, as measured by the PHQ-9?
In your daily diary, David, I would suggest you make note of:
Time locked in the preceding 24 hours. Document time unlocked, duration, and reason (bathing, cycling, etc)
Document any events in the preceding 24 hours such as a wet dream, nocturnal erection, arousal prompted by visual stimulation (what?) and so on.
Document sexual interaction with your wife. Note if she did/did not have an orgasm.
I'll email you the POMS and PHQ-9.
D
The Key is on my Nipple Ring
a couple's explorations with a chaste life, from the wife's point of view
Dev's Gallery
my stash of good looking men
Keyheld: Chastity Resources for Lovers
a couple's explorations with a chaste life, from the wife's point of view
Dev's Gallery
my stash of good looking men
Keyheld: Chastity Resources for Lovers
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justplaying
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Re: David's Year of Orgasm Denial
Dev; That's very impressive...you aren't kidding when you say that you are really into conceptual thinking and logic. Perhaps David can start with your Model , plus what's above and start drafting some sort of document that we can "group edit". I think your post is a good start at that....