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I recently watched Thumper's video on how his PA ring is secured to his steelhart device. I totally get the psychology behind knowing that there is absolutely no way to get out and just having a very solid deterrent keeping you locked up. It's one of the things I love about bondage...done properly there is no doubt that you will not be able to free yourself...Plus one of the recent posts talked about the KSD3 anti pullout device....

Like most guys on this forum I am a tinkerer. I love to take things apart and experiment with how things can be put together. I swear that when I was 9 or 10 years old I invented the Big Wheel by taking off the front wheel of my neighbors tricyle, flipping it over and putting the front wheel back on....plus reversing the seat to the other side....So in the same vein, I was looking at my CB6kS and noticed that the ring is not circular but has a flat on the inside diameter. And I realize that was done to reduce the chance of pull out...and then I wondered what would happen if you flip the second part of the top ring piece (the one without the bars attached) upside down. That would certainly reduce the inside diameter quite a bit, without limiting your ability to connect all the other pieces. I noticed that when doing this the gap remained nearly the same. Of course now the small spacer at the top isn't going to reach, so I switched to the next size up. Now the gap is firmly established, the lock fits just as tight against the ring and my poor penis is very much trapped. It is only slightly tighter in the ball sack area which I am hoping will stretch over the course of the day. I will let you know how this turns out wearing it this way in a future posts...Anybody else try this out? If so, would like to know what I should look out for, other then the obvious pinch potential....Thanks!
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O_o

Can I get a picture? Not really following...
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Sorry about that...I re-read it and I was rambling....its very easy. There are three parts to the CB6ks ring. The cuff ring is open at the top and there are two top pieces that slide together to close the ring. One of those two top pieces has two fixed posts that slide through the cuff ring and a locking pin that fits in the center. The second top piece slides on the opposite side of the ring through the two posts. The center of that piece has an indentation for a small oval spacer. All I did was take this second piece and flip it so that the two posts can still go through the ring but the locking pin goes right over it. Normally this top piece is frowning ( ^ ), when I flip it around it is smiling ( v ). When placed in this position it blocks about 1/3 of the tube entrance. I hope that helps. I may post a picture later when I am unlocked. Here's a crude drawing: )
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I did find that with my usual size ring, it was a bit too tight, because my penis was being pushed downward and thus filling the gap between the ring and tube a lot more. Having an erection was impossible, taking a piss, luckily, was just fine. Today I went to the next ring size up, to widen the gap between the ring and tube. Because the top of the ring is lined up with the top of the tube, the entrance to the tube remains blocked by the flipped top piece....so pull out is pretty slim...not as good as a PA lock, but I can't get out...
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Oooooh! I get it.

No, I've never seen anyone do that. Good thinking! Very clever.
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Thanks. By the way, I really like your videos. I never understood how the "integrated lock" worked until I saw your last video. I also thought the Chastity Air video was very funny! Thanks for making them....jp
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Back in the old days, guys with an unused cuff ring for their CB2000 would cut out the section with the guide pin holes and flip it upside down as a spacer, with much the same effect. I have cut out the flat section from unused hinged cuff rings for the same reason.

My only concern about the 6k is whether the ears will be strong enough over time.
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On my old CB6K, the "ears" are riddled with stress fractures. I stopped wearing it so it never broke, but it was just a matter of time.
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justplaying wrote:Thanks for making them.
Thanks for liking them!
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This has always been a dilemma, anti pull out without a PA.

Actually idea just occurred to me that would be an effective strategy (mind you it probably would not work for me because my mrs could not give a shit).

We all focus on how to make a CB impossible to get out of, or if you can get out impossible to get back in, but we all know using a stocking if you can get out its easy to get back in.

I have also seen little rubber hoops that lasso tha thing so in theory you can't get out...but how about a BREAKABLE lasso, that is in effect a tamper sensor. This would even make shaking the shit out of the cage to cheat a dangerous activity, of course whatever material you use would have to be strong enough to withstand exercise, but weak enough to break if one tried to pull out or shake.

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About those ears.....yes, the CB6K series will not last forever...I had one of the post pull right out and had to super glue it back in place. I requested a warranty replacement just in case and they sent me a new piece in about 4 days. It would be nice if the top of the ring pieces could be made of metal since they fit all of the ring sizes. It would be a hybrid. I think Tom has replaced his locking pin with a steel pin....

There is always that trade off between fitting comfortably, staying clean and not be able to pull out. If you make the ring size too small then your balls take a beating. I prefer having the open ring instead of the closed ring for that reason. With the closed ring, (which most of the metal designs seem to use), your ball sack really needs to be stretched out good. I am high and tight in the mornings and by evening I am stretched out pretty good. Meaning by the end of the day, my whole kit is loose enough that I could slip out of the tube, but not the ring. And if you can slip out, then you most certainly can slip back in.

I wear a rubber cock ring just behind the head of my penis to hold everything in place, as well as to pull things into place. I take a piece of shoelace and slip it through the cock ring before I slide it over the end of my penis. I thread the shoelace through the "pee slit" in the tube and then I push everything down the tube. I use a Q-tip to help move things down the tube, while pulling on the shoe lace. When the ring gets down behind the "flared" part of the tube and the head is lined up with the slit, I pull the shoe lace out and lock the device. It works pretty well. The rubber ring, keeps the head in place and makes it pretty much impossible for an accidental pull out. Soap or other lubricants will always allow the little bugger to wiggle his way out however....

I tried another pull out device that had little rubber "fingers" that allowed one way movement, but they left tiny painful bruises that I could not tolerate. That experience got me to thinking about the Chinese finger idea. Using a piece of woven plastic tubing, could you slide that over your penis and have it held tight inside the tube and locked outside (so you can get it off)? Tie wraps etc. are also ideas that I have experimented with. The problem with all of those, is that you run the risk of pulling too tightly and either not being able to piss or worse, cutting off circulation to the end of your penis. Something you really don't want to risk...

The only other thing I can think of is having some sort of a cam action roller put into the top of the tube, that has rods resting on top of the penis. If you try to pull out the cam rolls backward and the rods roll downwards to exert pressure on the penis. Kind of like a points of intrigue on demand idea....

I just keep playing with all these ideas. Thanks everybody for your comments...love to hear what you other tinkerers are doing.
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