Still able to cum in steel or plastic

[MikeyLikes]

I can stimulate myself to orgasm in my MM QK, but it takes a lot of time, and in the end, is not very pleasurable. I've done it a couple of times, but usually start getting chaffed and/or get tired and/or lose interest.

[Sir Chaste]

MikeyLikes: I believe that MM probably designed the CD in that fashion for that very purpose! There was a memorable scene in an old movie (whose name I can't recall), in which the actor said to the actress, "I tried the door to your room last night, and it was locked." To which the actress replied, "If you know that the door was locked, you must have tried it. And if you tried it, you know why it was locked!" Some things just speak for themselves!

[wspony]

I did some experimenting to prevent a shaking of the device to stimulate one-self.

The most promising thing was to put some "points of intrigue" like small spikes into the device near the glans area. When flaccid you don't feel them at all, but when aroused they poke slightly into your glans. Shaking the device at that point is ... not a good idea ... so to say as they get really painful ...
I still have to experiment with various materials (softness, position, etc.) to be able to wear something like that long-term. It should not be painful during nocturnal errections, but only be uncomfortable when shaking/moving up-down the device...

If you try this and find the perfect material/spike-size etc. tell us

[wspony]

I did some more experiments. The best result so far was by having not some single spikes, but ridges with not too sharp (but not too soft either) edges. The ridges go parallel to the edge of my glans. When this is put inside my device at the top where the glans is, it is not uncomfortable at all. I can get erections and aroused and those ridges don't hurt at all, they press a little into my glans, but are not very feelable. Since they are no points, they don't pierce anything.

Their real effect starts when I move the device. No matter if I move it up or down or just shake it a little, those ridges move over my glans which is quite painful! I have not tested extensively with oil or something, but I think that it would not matter.

My "problem" always was that my glans is very sensive. When I masturbate I often just massage the rim and underside of my glans at the top... This was also the reason I could get some form of pleasure by moving the device when aroused so it moves over my glans... well with those ridges this does not feel good anymore.

Perhaps when I am locked away the next time I will test them long-term And see if I can trick them or if I get used to them and they won't be annoying anymore or something. I'll keep you posted

[thumper]

Every time I read something about guys able to come in a device I'm left perplexed. There's no way in hell I'd be able to do it (and believe me, if it was possible, I'd know by now). I suspect it's partly physiology (as in, some guys are more easily simulated or stimulated differently so that the relative lack of movement in the device is still sufficient to get off) and partly fit (as in, the device is too big and allows too much movement). The CB6K tube was too narrow for me to get any stimulative movement and the Steelheart I usually wear and the JB I wore for a while were much smaller in length. The meat simply doesn't have the room and none of the bits I need to stimulate can be.

The thing I wanted to add to this thread though is to say that most chastity devices are not the high security prisons the wank stories have us believe they are. We all know they can backed out of (even with add ons that trap and bunch up skin). At best, these are *deterrents*, not fool-proof protection. You, as the one who has submitted to be locked up, are the last line of defense. Your brain is the world's most secure chastity device. The physical thing locked onto your body is just a helper.

If I were able to orgasm in a device and I felt inclined to do so, I'd talk to my keyholder about it. Either it's time for them to consider letting you out (since it's so bad you're considering cheating) or you just need to talk it out and recommit to the control they have. I find that when I'm in a really badly frustrating spot (as opposed to a good frustrating spot), talking to Belle for a little bit and saying to her that I wanted to be locked up and I love her for accepting her role brings me off the ledge.

[wspony]

Hey Thumper,

I too think it has to do with many factors. I am not talking about trying to get off because you are on a bad ledge, but about "testing" the device from time to time. Not because one wants to break out by all means, but because ono enjoys the excitement and frustration when the test fails... (or rather succeeds because you could not get any pleasure ) Nothing is more thrilling than finding out your head-cinema really is true and you are absolutely helpless under her control.

Being able to get off in a device depends on many factors. State of mind, device-size, personal sensibility, etc. For example when I was new in the Steelheart I was so excited that I got a somewhat ruined orgasm by shaking and moving. However when I tried again a week or two later it was much harder to even get near that state of mind that allowed me to feel enough pleasure.

Basically I think there is nothing wrong in trying to make your device as secure as possible If you find a way to improve a device, why not

[hot_toddy_dog]

I'm one of those who unfortunately still is able to cum in steel. It was far too easy in my old MM device and I thought this was because there was a lot of skin exposed. Now in the Steelheart, I am completely enclosed, and can still orgasm without any stimulation whatsoever. I reach orgasm while pleasuring my wife, and although it doesn't always happen, it has risen to the point that it is like 50% of the time (eventually with the MM device it was 100%). I don't have a problem with masturbation control, I prefer to get myself aroused, but not to orgasm, and only very rarely do I screw up when teasing myself. However, going down on my wife gets me excited beyond control and this causes me to orgasm involuntarily.

I imagine the same will happen with the Steelheart, and yet I will try a smaller and tighter device hoping for something different. Already I have plans to move down to a 32mm tube and maybe even a 29mm if it proves possible. I don't know if a tighter base ring would help at all, but will probably try that as well.

[hot_toddy_dog]

Every time I read something about guys able to come in a device I'm left perplexed. There's no way in hell I'd be able to do it (and believe me, if it was possible, I'd know by now). I suspect it's partly physiology (as in, some guys are more easily simulated or stimulated differently so that the relative lack of movement in the device is still sufficient to get off) and partly fit (as in, the device is too big and allows too much movement). The CB6K tube was too narrow for me to get any stimulative movement and the Steelheart I usually wear and the JB I wore for a while were much smaller in length. The meat simply doesn't have the room and none of the bits I need to stimulate can be.

The fundamental issue is probably the stimulation needed to elicit orgasm. I can orgasm without stimulating my penis at all. In fact, I've had an orgasm while my entire penis was numbed with tetracaine. I could have hammered a nail through it and not felt a thing. Nipple play is all I need to orgasm, and a few times I tried just looking at pictures that turned me on, and I was able to orgasm without any other stimulation at all.

This doesn't bode well for my chastity situation.

[celticqueens_sub]

I think that kinda lines up with what Thumper says about physiology and possibly psychology too? Some folks cum easier than others. Like you, when giving pleasure to CQ I can get to the point that I would cum if I was allowed, just from CQ having her orgasm. I mean, soft wet pussy in your face... really what else would you need???

[hot_toddy_dog]

Like you, when giving pleasure to CQ I can get to the point that I would cum if I was allowed, just from CQ having her orgasm. I mean, soft wet pussy in your face... really what else would you need???

Exactly. So like, how do you hold back? I try, but over time I am less and less successful at this. My body keeps re-learning to orgasm when I get excited by her pleasure, sometimes I even cum before she does, which I absolutely hate. Honestly, the few times I have orgasmed simply by pleasuring her, at exactly the right time, I do not regret at all. Actually, I really wish that was the only way I had ever experienced orgasm at all, and having done so already, I don't need to do so again.

The progression of smaller and tighter devices will eventually reach a biological hard limit here, I do not think I am quite there yet, but I am getting close. What is next, chastity hypnosis? Although it's a bit embarrassing to ask a hypnotist to program you not to orgasm, and the "hypnosis" material I have heard out there leaves a lot to be desired. No, I don't want to wear frilly panties or be locked up 24 / 7 or allow my mistress to take complete control or stay locked in my <insert designer brand> chastity device. I simply don't want to orgasm at the drop of a hat when I get excited. This is funny because I can actually control myself better when having vaginal sex than when performing oral sex on her.