Health Issues

[LockedLaura]

My KH is concerned about how long she can leave me locked away.

She is quite willing to take breaks for hygiene and such but is concerned that long term lock down will damage my prostate.

This forum is about the only place where I could imagine I would get quality information on a question.

I believe based upon anecdotal evidence (which is a lousy foundation IMO) that I could be left locked up indefinitely and that eventually my body would experience a nocturnal emission if it needed to do so.

She is trying to be safe but isn't really all that excited at the massage thing (except if it can keep me denied even longer).

What say the elder sages of chastity, will nature take care of itself, or should it be lent a hand (so to speak).

-L

[likes2blocked]

I don't think there's any real evidence of it causing any damage. OTOH, I'm not sure how you'd get a valid study in the first place. Sarah's book has some good info on that.

What it works out to is that she could leave you locked up as long as she felt like the trade-offs were worth it. Mine looks at it like this - on the one hand, there's as much oral sex as she can stand. On the other hand, there's a few moments of watching me go wild, then about a week to get me back to where she wants me. The as much oral sex as she can stand seems to be the consistent winner...

[Billus]

There's no conclusive evidence one way or the other. I suspect many men who go in for milking do so for reasons unrelated to health .
But if you're teased and denied (or even watching porn while locked up) and experience some precum, that's your prostate greasing up the machinery, so to speak. So anything that will allow you some leakage is probably a good thing.

Remember, a dribble a day keeps the orgasm away!

[mikecb]

The prostate can normally drain itself. I know that when I've either been locked but aroused, or just locked for a long time, sometimes my urine has a milky cloud to it - that's just the unused semen dumping out.

I believe the whole prostate milking thing is just an urban legend created by those who want some anal sex play.

mikecb

[Dev]

I believe the whole prostate milking thing is just an urban legend created by those who want some anal sex play.

mikecb

And why not just have some anal sex play? It's a lot of fun.

I was reading some skanky blogs yesterday and several had a focus on punishing your man by fucking him in the ass with a dildo. Punishing? Seriously? Okay, I suppose if you did it without any lube.

I like things up my ass and I don't even have a prostate!

D

[LockedLaura]

Hi All, Thanks for your input. I appreciate the assistance. I am certain my KH is interested in Anal play, but she would much rather use her harness and attachments than anything so prosaic as a digit. Finding something else to stimulate looks very tempting from this side of the cage.

L

[Jimi123]

I think looking for answers from people into Chastity is like asking a stamp collector if stamps are cool. Prostate health is a medical question so I would hope that SOMEONE will get the nerve to ask a doctor and get some proper answers.

Prostate cancer and prostate problems are pretty large on the radar and since many of the folks who are into chastity are older I think its a very important issue to think about. At least for those that ponder trying to reduce the quantity of male orgasms.

I Googled and got this answer from (supposedly) a doctor from a women whose husband was in chastity and being denied orgasm.

"During sexual arousal the prostate gland & seminal vesicles manufacture fluid that accounts for the majority of the semen. The seminal vesicles are paired structures located behind the prostate gland that are also sensitive to sexual excitement. Sperm from the testicles (which account for only 1-2 % of the semen) travel up a series of tubes (epididymis and vas deferens) on each side to join the seminal vesicles forming the paired ejaculatory ducts. These structures empty into the prostatic portion of the urethra. At the time of ejaculation, fluid is discharged from the prostate gland and ejaculatory ducts into the urethra (urinary canal) forming the semen. The average semen volume is 2-6 cc. With the inception of ejaculation, the bladder neck closes and the semen is forced forward out the urethra by contraction of the pelvic muscles. Arousal without ejaculation causes the prostate to swell with fluid producing tension on the prostate’s capsule. This may occur with prolonged foreplay, with coitus interruptus, or by holding back ejaculation during intercourse or masturbation. It may also occur if a man rarely ejaculates. In this case, the prostate is still stimulated to secrete fluid in response to sexual. dreams, fantasies and thoughts.

There are a variety of symptoms that may occur with this condition. Often the urinary stream may be split, spraying or manifest a decreased caliber or force. Stool passing through the rectum may push on the distended prostate producing a penile discharge. Prolonged sitting (you sit on the prostate) can cause the discharge to be noted before voiding. At the end of urination, as the bladder is emptying out the last few drops of urine, it actually squeezes the prostate. If the prostate is congested, one may note fluid at the end of urination. A man may notice this more with sitting to void as there is more pressure exerted on the prostate in this position. With congestive prostatitis one may experience discomfort which is often referred to the penis, testicle(s), groin, low back or rectal area. This pain in the testicles is denoted by the slang terms: “blue balls” or “lover’s nuts”. Irritating urinary symptoms such as frequency or urgency may also occur. Symptoms are typically immediately relieved by ejaculation and prevented by avoiding sexual arousal without ejaculation. Sitting in a warm bathtub for 10-15 minutes daily will also provide some relief. If the condition persists, consultation with a urologist is recommended.

As you might conclude from the above, it is healthy for the prostate to be emptied regularly to prevent congestion. For the average man, ejaculation 2-3 times a week is sufficient. However, there is great individual variation. Too frequent ejaculation beyond the tolerance of the prostate (which also varies individually) can inflame the prostate and predispose to other types of prostatitis including bacterial infection. The prostate's tolerance can only be determined by trial and error if one is curious.

Congestive or other types of prostatitis are generally not permanent and can be treated easily. The treatment of congestive prostatitis is mentioned above.

Periodic ejaculation within the tolerance of the prostate gland will help to keep the prostate healthy by avoiding over-congestion.

Sperm are just cells and as such, have a finite life span. In the body, this is usually about 3 months. When they die, the debris is absorbed and digested by the leukocytes (white blood cells - the so called "garbage men" of the body. Seminal fluid does become a little more concentrated & viscous if one does not ejaculate for long periods of time but I am not sure of the exact mechanism. My guess is that the watery part of the fluid diffuses into the tissue spaces and is absorbed into the lymphatic system.

I hope this answers your questions satisfactorily. Good luck. "

Now, the question in my mind is what is the "point" your trying to reach with Male Chastity? If the goal is long term (Or total?) orgasm denial? To what point? I honestly think there are some great benefits from the lifestyle. Health issues however are far more important to me then any benefit to the relationship or kink.

Some of the blogs, posts etc talk about how the eventual male orgasms become clouded with premature ejaculation issues etc. That also seems counter productive to me unless (Again) the goal is simply total denial.

Plus I would think if the tease and denial sessions and the women having a true "control" of the male Orgasm wouldn't the male (Hopefully) have more control over orgasm??!!

[Dev]

Personally, I think the best approach for good prostate health is the approach for good health in general: exercise, maintain a healthy weight, eat a healthy diet, don't smoke, drink moderately (if at all), don't use drugs. Have an annual exam and for men, make sure that includes a rectal exam (which is for your prostate). Men in their 40s and definitely over 50 should discuss PSA screening (prostate-specific antigen) with their primary care provider.

If you are 50 lbs overweight, smoke a pack a day and your major exercise is taking the dog for a two-minute pee walk twice a day, you are doing a lot more to harm your health than wearing a chastity device is going to do, IMHO.

D

[Tom Allen]

If you are 50 lbs overweight, smoke a pack a day and your major exercise is taking the dog for a two-minute pee walk twice a day, you are doing a lot more to harm your health than wearing a chastity device is going to do, IMHO.

This.

In our quest to be kinky and safe, this is one of the factors that I rarely see addressed. That said, since we've noted that many chastity aficionados tend to be middle-aged, it might not be a bad thing for us to give thought to the health aspects.


And *that* said, I just need to comment on this:

I Googled and got this answer from (supposedly) a doctor from a women whose husband was in chastity and being denied orgasm.

While "her" information seems reasonable, I wanted to mention that a while back, there was man who posted on several chastity groups who pretended to be a woman doctor, with a husband in chastity. The "advice" she (he) gave was generally sane and reasonable. He was outed when he accidentally sent some emails to people under his real account. The regular members in the groups traded stories and figured out what was up.

I've been looking for information for about ten years, and I haven't run across anything that makes me believe that regular (fsv of "regular") releases are necessary for all men in all cases. One issue is that *some* men can develop prostate (or other plumbing) problems, *but* we have no way of knowing if they are specifically related to ejaculation; the studies are not always controlled for diet, exercise, general health, or other environmental factors.

So, to get back to the original post, there isn't any real answer, except that you can play however you like within reason, and with little need to worry about your prostate health. Just stay healthy in general, get regular checkups, and watch your diet.

[wally]

what about problems with testicles I have just started wearing a cb3000 and my balls are squashed in it
and I have wondered if I'm doing damage to them.