Small when flacid, looking for the right purchase

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Small when flacid, looking for the right purchase

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Hello all, have been doing some research and I'm trying to determine what device might work for me

I have in the past tried both an Exobelt V1 and Exobelt Extreme with no real luck. I'm basically, when flacid, just too small. I am able to when flacid pull the penis back out thru the ball-trap rings right out of the V1, and when flacid I would slide right out of the Extreme even on the smallest possible configuration.

The balls stay secure (at least more secure than the shaft, I really didnt continue with them after I discovered pullout of the penis was easy), I am uncircumcised. There is just a lot of flexibility there and not much size to keep things stationary

I don't really have the budget for afull belt..so I thought maybe there's been some magical innovations for small guys with all the new belt and device manufacturers out there.

I've been seeing some reviews of the Jailbird, and I've heard some about the Birdlocked mini.

Can anyone comment on The Tube from MM? I want something secure, if I can pullout, it just defeats the purpose obviously, but since this would be my first working device I'd be nice to have no-touch as well. I want to try to be educated before buying another. Thanks so much for any thoughts
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Welcome to the forums, Chimi.

I don't believe any trapped-ball style device is totally secure. There are things that can be added to make them more difficult to get out of, but at the end of the day, the basic design just isn't escape proof. My advice it is think of it as a deterrent and come to a place in your own mind that allows you to respect the deterrent and honor its purpose.

If that's not an option for you, then I'd consider a piercing. There are a couple of ways to make a device essentially escape proof (assuming you break it or pick its lock) using a PA ring.

I wouldn't advice the silicone devices as they're not an effective barrier to self-gratification. Plus, many find them uncomfortable (especially the Birdlocked). If you can swing the budget, the Bird Cage might be a good option. It's totally customizable so you don't have to deal with the one-size-fits-most thing.

Good luck!
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I am looking to avoid a piercing, just not my thing personally, I know it helps ensure security but I'd rather use some kind of security pin (if actually effective)

Thanks for the info.

Smallers ones out there, how are the metal devices and the Birdcage/Jailbird faring/others?

I'm seeing lots of solid reviews , but penis-pullout is the main hurdle for me I think I want to try to fix
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The various options that make pull-out more difficult also tend to take up room in the tube/cage and are designed to press into or against the penis. That can have a detrimental effect on comfort. Something else to consider...
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That's good to know
One thing Id like to mention is I did try the Exobelt Extreme which basically, I think since i'm uncircumsized, the penis eventually would worm it's way up through the restrictor (even when pretty tight), or with some tugging,
But the design overall seemed clunky and was not a trapped ball device in combination...
I'm wondering if the adjustable rings would help this, because even with the V1 the smallest ring wasnt quite tight enough and wasnt adjustable in any way.
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My personal favorite is the CB6000 Short Tube (CB6ks)

But as has been said, none are escape proof. If you want out, you'll get out.

I believe the more effective approach is to focus on the mindset. If your keyholder doesn't want you masturbating, the device should be "just" enough to prevent masturbation. For me it helps to think in terms of the locking as a sign I SHOULDN'T masturbate instead of not being ABLE to masturbate.

Alas, our anatomies are all different. It is next to impossible to get the perfect advice on this subject. But we "growers" seem to like the cb6ks a lot.

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Like you I'm also uncircumcised, and small when flaccid. I have the CB-6000S and can easily pull out, with or without the KSD-G3. The KSD-G3, if customized and bent severely enough, make pull out a little less easy, but a lot more uncomfortable -- will leave a bruise on top where the tongue digs in. I don't have a metal device (though this will change soon), but I expect security to be worse, because of the narrower A-ring as compared to the CB-6000, and because metal is just more slippery. And don't think that a full belt will solve your security issues -- I also have an Access Denied full belt and pull out is also trivial. As you've noted, things are just too squishy down there and it's just not possible for a device to be tight enough to be secure and wearable long term.
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Hi Chimichanga;

I would not recommend the Birdlocked silicone devices at all. They are very easy to pull out of...I bought one thinking that the silicone would be more comfortable than hard plastic. I went out for a run to see how it would feel when exercising and it fell off! Big expensive for no result.

After that I searched the web like mad thinking there has to be something out there that doesn't use my scrotum to keep me from being able to pull out. I found a Kali's Teeth Bracelet and nearly considered buying it, but at the last minute, reason won out on that...ouch!

Finally, I found a site that offered a security insert that doesn't have teeth per se involved in the design. It has a ring that fits around the penis and slides into the opening of a CB6000 S. The ring has rubber fingers that you can shorten or remove that act as a pull out device. As your penis slides into the ring, the fingers bend forward in the direction of your shaft. But should you try to pull the penis back out of the rings, your skin gets caught up (like a Chinese finger trap) and it is pretty much impossible to get out. Maybe if you soaped it up good you might, but I'm not sure that would even work.

I took it one step forward from there and added a cock ring that I place just behind my glands (head). So, here is how I wear mine. I put on the best size ring (1 of 5 come with the 6KS) and then slide on the security insert to the base of my shaft. Next, I take a piece of string and loop it through the cock ring (rubber with small beads). I slide the cock ring behind some foreskin but not too far down the shaft. Then I push the string through the pee slit in the tube and gently work the cock ring into the tube. I use a Q-tip to get my head positioned downwards in the tube, then I push the security insert in side the tube. Be very careful during this little step, as the security insert fits snug and can easily trap a small bit of skin when being shoved into the tube.

The reason I started using the cock ring in the first place, was to help stretch the skin tight to avoid this kind of pinching. When, the security insert is inside the tube I lock the tube in place and continue to pull on the string to move the cock ring forward until it sits just under the flanged part of the CB6kS. I use the Q-tip to align my pee slit with the tubes and voila' it is perfect for peeing after that. I do carry a Q-tip with me at all times in case things move about (which they do), but with both the cock ring holding my head in place and the security ring in the back, my cock is not going anywhere without permission. It would be easier for me to pick the lock then to try and pull out. : ) There is another product made in New Zeland that features an anti pull out design, called the Phoenix Male Chastity (Xanadu) but folks here have given some good insight as to why that device might not be ideal either. Good luck!
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Hi Chimi,
I know you mentioned that price is a consideration, so I'm not really suggesting this is right for you. Justplaying mentioned that he didn't think a full belt would be any more secure than the devices he mentioned in his post. The truth is, if you throw enough money at this you can get a very secure device.
I know I'm probably crazy (certainly the exception), but I always wanted a full belt. There is just something about all of that steel that gets me going. It's so shiny and pretty. I spent the money for a Neosteel belt, a Masterpiece series She-Male belt to be specific. It cost a fortune, I have no explanation of why I spent that much (maybe I was possessed). Anyway, I can guarantee that there is no getting ones penis out of this (or even touching it) without cutting the belt off. Actually the cost of the belt acts as a good deterrent to tampering too. I know with the right tools and protective gear it can be cut off, but I know I'm not willing to throw that kind of money down the drain for two or three minutes of glory. Maybe I'm not desperate enough yet? The longest I've gone in it is 30 days. Just my two cents worth.
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James, truly funny you should mention, as from the looking and asking around I've done, the Neosteel Shemale design is the most asthetically pleasing to me, and really caught my eye above all the rest.

May I ask, are you similar in endowment as I described? You've not had any issues with being able to slip out in some fashion?

Could you explain a little more about the model and your thoughts, opinions, and experiences you've had? I'm interested in learning more about it.

I certainly don't have the money right now, but I'd like to investigate. Chastity has been a long time fantasy of mine and my fiance and I are new to it, she is inexperienced/new, but really we have a synergy and we've been completely candid and realistic with each other. I'm submissive by nature and try to avoid the pitfalls of topping from the bottom, and she's growing into it quite well with just general top/bottom games.
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