Upgrading from CB-3000

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Upgrading from CB-3000

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Hi.

I've had my CB-3000 for the better part of a year now. I like it, but it's got some drawbacks for me. The foremost is that it is too long, leaving me enough room to wiggle the device back and forth enough to manage an orgasm. (I'm uncut, so my foreskin can slide back and forth easily.) Another major one is that the design is rather difficult to clean -- it's hard to clean next to my cock, since it's covered most of the length of the tube. Lastly (and I don't know if this is just my anatomy or if a different device could help) it tends to cut off circulation to my balls at night.

So... I'm looking to upgrade. An obvious (and pretty cheap) choice is the CB-6000s, which is shorter, has more vents, and has a nicer base ring than the CB-3000. But I, like many, have been lusting over the Jailbird and similar metal ones. How much nicer are these to wear than the plastic ones? Am I likely to be able to wear it 24/7, given my problems with my current one? Given the open design, are they still a solid way to prevent myself from coming? (I assume the way to ensure that is to make sure it's snug enough that, once I'm even the least bit hard, my cock has no room to move?)

Are there any other options I should be looking at? I'm a college student, so I'm not looking forward to the comparatively hefty chunk of change that the Jailbird costs (although I'm sure it's worth every penny :).

Thanks,

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Re: Upgrading from CB-3000

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I wrote a length comparison between the CB-6000 and the Steelworxx Steelheart.

http://denyingthumper.com/steelheart-vs-cb6k/

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Re: Upgrading from CB-3000

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thumper, what are your thoughts on open versus closed designs? The SteelHeart is gorgeous, but it sounds like even more of a pain to take care of than the CB-x000 series. I really like the idea of something that I can just shower with, instead of having to keep a spray bottle (or just take it off to shower, which is what I end up doing), but I'm worried that I'd trivially be able to stimulate myself between the gaps.
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Neraden, I'm not Thumper but I'll give you my 2 cents on the Mature Metal devices we have...

My husband was in the CB-6000s which was useful for sizing the Jailbird. He found the CB very difficult to keep clean, even with squirt bottles and so on and we had gotten to an agreement that he could take it off 2x/wk for bathing. Once the JB arrived, that changed because it was much easier to keep clean and thus he was wearing it pretty much continuously. As for stimulation in the JB--yes, you can poke a finger in there but not really enough to actually do much, IMHO.

I then ordered the Watchful Mistress which arrived last week. Based on the advice from Bill at MM, I ordered it 1/4" smaller than the JB (1 3/4" instead of 2"; the CB-6000s is 2 1/2" long). All the other measurements were the same. The WM is very snug--he fills it right up to the end, all the time. Any arousal goes backwards. He can't even have the tiniest bit of an erection in the WM. It has more metal in the design so it is harder to get a finger in there for stimulating--but stimulating is sort of pointless because nothing is going to happen. I tried a little last night as we were fooling around. His poor little cock just sat there, looking like a little caged thing. Meanwhile, my husband was panting and moaning and was definitely aroused. ;)

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Obviously, an open cage design like the Jail Bird is easier to keep clean than a closed tube, but the Steelheart is not as hard as the CB6K to keep clean. I flush it with soapy water during my morning shower and then again with warm water at night. In between, I shake the tube gently with toilet paper or paper towel covering the hole to get out as much excess urine as possible. I've found the steel to clean more easily and just feel more hygienic than the plastic with all it's nooks an crannies. As I've said before on the forum, if you're going to strap something onto our dick, you're going to have hygiene issues. The extra effort required to keep a device clean is part and parcel with the experience.

The other thing to consider is that the Steelheart allows you to use a urinal with little to no effort while I assume the JB will make that impossible. For some guys, that's a big deal. For me, it's a trade off that's more than worth a little extra effort keeping it clean.
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Re: Upgrading from CB-3000

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thumper, I know you love your Steelheart (and it looks *hot*), but I think the difference in ease of cleaning between the Steelheart and the Jailbird is actually a pretty big difference for me.

Dev, I'm pretty worried about sizing the Jailbird properly, especially as some of the measurements aren't alterable. My problems with the CB-3K are: 1. It's too long. This is easy to fix by getting a shorter one. 2. At night, it pulls too far forward on my balls. I've been told a snugger and/or shorter cage will help with this, because it won't let me get as much of an erection. I'm skeptical, because I'm a grower, so a large amount of that erection is behind my balls and thus outside the cage. 3. It's not snug enough, so I sometimes end up getting an erection not all the way forward in the cage, which is extra painful. How much of this do you think I can avoid with the Jailbird?
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neranden,

I'd suggest writing Bill at MM ([email protected]) and ask for his advice. He knows the measurements of the various CBs and can suggest, based on how CB3K fits you what might be a good size for the JB. Maybe even send a picture if you're not too shy. When I was ordering the JB, I explained how the CB6000s fit and based on that, he suggested the ring size, length, inside diameter and gap. Everything was fine, fit wise, and my husband didn't require any adjustments. There was a little bit of space at the end of the JB so when I ordered the Watchful Mistress, Bill suggested 1/4" shorter; this was based on looking at a photo.

Length and diameter are the two things that can't be changed. If you get those wrong, it's an expensive mistake (although I gather he is willing to negotiate to come up with a reasonable price for the fix). If you get the ring size wrong, then you can buy another ring--but you can avoid this problem by getting the sizing rings. Bill tells me that changing the gap from 1/4" to 3/8" (and vice versa) is an easy fix.

Bill emailed me and said that the last thing he wants is one of his chastities sitting in a drawer and gathering dust, so he will work with you to try to make it right from the outset and then if a fix is needed (hopefully not), he'll work with you then.

As for the feeling of erections and so on in the JB, I'll defer to one of the other JB wearing guys to answer that question.

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Re: Upgrading from CB-3000

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neranden wrote: How much of this do you think I can avoid with the Jailbird?
If you get the size right these can all be mitigated if not eliminated. I would follow Dev's advice and contact Mature Metal for assistance. I started with a CB-3000 and had all the problems that you describe. I rarely have problems with any of them now.

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thumper wrote: The other thing to consider is that the Steelheart allows you to use a urinal with little to no effort while I assume the JB will make that impossible. For some guys, that's a big deal.
Being able to use a urinal is a big deal for me too. I don't have any problem doing so with the jailbird. It did take a little practice at first but not anymore.

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Re: Upgrading from CB-3000

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Being able to use a urinal isn't actually that big a deal to me. I've always tended to use a stall anyway, and I somewhat enjoy the humiliation of being forced to sit down to pee.
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